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  • Hardware or Software—best way to up-rez?

    Posted by Phillip Powell on July 25, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    Got a show that’s DVCPro HD (Panasonic Vericam & DVC Pro 50 sources) that’s edited as a DVCPro HD (AJA Kona 2) seq. Ingest thru the AJA card is from Panasonic HD150 deck thru SDI HD.

    Final out needs to be 1080. As I understand, I can either:

    -up rez the seq. and re-render and output to tape
    (not sure how to yet, but haven’t gotten that far)

    -or let the Kona 2 do it on the out put

    -or (not sure of this one either) up rez in the deck when dump to tape.

    Any thoughts you guy?

    Thanks

    p2

    Jeremy Garchow replied 18 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • Dan Riley

    July 25, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    Not an HD expert, let someone else tell you that part.
    But as someone who does the uprez process on my DV offline to
    SD finishing, ANYTHING you can do to stay away from the Media Manager
    I would do. It’s a train-wreck. I wish Apple would get an understanding
    of how important this area is to pros who uprez, but they seem to be
    deaf on this aspect of FCP. It should be one click, load up my tapes,
    ingest, and have a new timeline where EVERYTHING JUST WORKS.
    Believe me, it’s far from that experience with FCP.

    Probably I’d just let the KONA output it however you need it,
    but like I said, I don’t have the HD gear yet.

    Dan

  • Jim Carswell

    July 25, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    User a hardware solution like a Teranex (sp?).
    Jim

    Jim Carswell
    Spyhop Productions, Inc.
    Savannah, GA
    http://www.spyhopproductions.com

  • Shane Ross

    July 25, 2007 at 8:14 pm

    I always let the card do the upconvert. Works every time and looks great.

    I know of other people who output to DVCPRO HD tape, then use a Terranex to up convert when they dub to D5. That works too.

    The first way is cheaper.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Phillip Powell

    July 25, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    With you there, man. Haven’t given that bad bit of code a second thought in years.

    Very true what you say …

    p2

  • Phillip Powell

    July 25, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    …just what I was looking for.

    By the way, Shane’s just an acronym or alias for what?—couple dozen tech folks, right?

    No way one human could consistantly bail the rest of us out with help and knowledge, do a insightful Blog, keep current, hell, AHEAD of all vid prod tech trends—

    and keep clients or a job and sleep. No way.

    I’m on to you guys, whom ever you are—and thanks a million .

    p2

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 25, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    I’m kind of confused. You say you have a timeline that’s already in DVCPRO HD, why can’t you just master that? Are you saying you have a 720p timeline and you need to get to a 1080 timeline? unfortunately, the Kona 2 won’t do this. The Kona 3 or Kona3X will do this cross convert.

    Jeremy

  • Shane Ross

    July 25, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    SORRY…that’s right. The Kona 2 will UPCONVERT SD to HD, but the cross convert capabilities are limited to the Kona 3.

    Looks like my Shane Ross staff messed up.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 25, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Looks like my Shane Ross staff messed up.”

    That cracks me up!

  • Phillip Powell

    July 26, 2007 at 12:22 am

    As to the ‘why?’— the clients server it’s to be loaded on in their theatre is needing 1080.

    So I guess the question is now, (instead of 3 options, just 2?)

    -up rez in FCP (what’s best way?)

    -or up convert when laying to tape thru the HD150? (Mannual says it’ll do it, be testing tonite)

    Hmmm…got a feeling I’m in trouble with those 2 options. Can’t be as problem free as the AJA route was seeming.

    Was (no, still am) loving what this AJA thing will do tho.

    Wish I’d opened that box it was stashed in by my predicessor a month ago. Wonder what else is around here….

    Thanks,

    p2

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 26, 2007 at 2:19 am

    OK, I assume that you are going to take your HD150 deck to the server for the final transfer? What’d I’d do is layoff your 720 tape as 720, then set the deck to do the 720>1080 crossconvert when you play the tape out to the server.

    Jeremy

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