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[jordanwwoods] “the DR Group in Los Angeles puts together an 8 bay solution that can come raid 5 through the High point utility”
Yeah, but that mother is frickin’ LOUD. Like working on an aircraft carrier. Forget doing VO in the same room with it.
(Used it on my last gig…had to do all the VO from my home)
Shane
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[JeremyG] ” I always hate to be the ‘bad guy’ and say that RAID 0 is risky and that $4,000 bomb you just spent is unwise”
Jeremy,
I’m writing a script at this very moment about geotechnical engineering — its very exciting fare for nerds and the stars all wear pocket protectors…
In any case, there is a reality of engineering that applies perfectly to this discussion. The job of an engineer is not to find the perfect solution to a problem, but rather to find a solution that works most of the time. A perfect solution is actually easier to achieve in many cases — it assumes that unlimited resources can be thrown at the problem. However, in the real world, every engineering project must take into consideration function, design, and safety concerns, all tempered by budgetary constaints. So, the primary role of an engineer is to define an acceptable, but calculated risk — and this is what each person buying or setting up a raid array is doing. One man’s acceptable level of risk may be another’s nightmare, but every solution is valid.
DRW
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[Shane Ross] “[jordanwwoods] “the DR Group in Los Angeles puts together an 8 bay solution that can come raid 5 through the High point utility”
Yeah, but that mother is frickin’ LOUD. Like working on an aircraft carrier. Forget doing VO in the same room with it.”
I’d just like to add that I think they have improved it, and have other solutions, just the one we had was pretty loud.
Sorry…don’t want to dis my homies at the DR Group. I do a lot of work with them and they are great guys.
And I had to do my VO at night, because of my LOUD KIDS.
Shane
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[Shane Ross] “[jordanwwoods] “the DR Group in Los Angeles puts together an 8 bay solution that can come raid 5 through the High point utility”
Yeah, but that mother is frickin’ LOUD. Like working on an aircraft carrier. Forget doing VO in the same room with it.”
I’d just like to add that I think they have improved it, and have other solutions, just the one we had was pretty loud.
Sorry…don’t want to dis my homies at the DR Group. I do a lot of work with them and they are great guys.
And I had to do my VO at night, because of my LOUD KIDS.
(Open mouth, insert foot. Yummmm….)
Shane
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[walter biscardi] “All I can say is NAB will be a very interesting event this year.”
Yes, I hope so. It’s amazing all the cool stuff we have at our fingertips.
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[gary adcock] “there are a number of solutions that offer raid 3 or raid 5 less than $10K.
None that I know of are Sata but there are a number of fibre alternatives that do offer this level of protection.”I use Highpoint Technologies SATA cards with RAID 5 capability. It works great in all our rooms. I highly recommend it to anyone. You can get 4TB RAID 5 superfast 400MB/s array for less than $2k. And it’s easy to set up. It uses a utility that runs in Safari or Firefox.
No disrespect to CallDigit or those who use them, but with Highpoint cards you have better features like RAID 5 and you save a ton of money. Just buy your own disks and enclosures. I use Firmtek enclosures but there are also many others. A company called Norco is selling rackmount RAID enclosures that are very, very reasonable in price.
Granted, having the whole package come from one vendor has support advantages. But to me its not enough to justify the price, let alone the lack of RAID 5. And you can get great support from Highpoint. Just make sure you buy disks that they have tested and certified.
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[jordanwwoods] “just look at High point technologies… the DR Group in Los Angeles puts together an 8 bay solution that can come raid 5”
That’s quite a markup they got there. They essentially charge $6,000 for this:
One of these for $600:
https://www.norcotek.com/item_detail.php?categoryid=8&modelno=ds1240One of these for $250:
https://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/rr2322.htmTwo of these for $90:
https://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/ms1mib.htm#topEight of these for $1360:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822147007That’s it. $2,200 plus tax to do it yourself. And it ain’t hard. Takes 10 minutes to mount 8 drives in the trays. 4 screws each drive. Phillips head. Hardly worth a 60% ($3800 per seat) markup to avoid 10 minutes of work. Highpoint and Hitachi have good support.
I have a very similar setup using Highpoint cards with RAID 5. It works great.
To each his own.
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How load is that enclosure?
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We had three of those HighPoint cards in G5 stations with a bundle of internal disks and ran them as RAID5.
Unfortunately we had lots of false alarms, where the unit would signal a defective drive and annoy everybody in the room. Only in one single case there was really a bad drive and the software was able to recove everything as you’d expect from a RAID5 and as described by Jeremy we were even able to continue our work.
Since we don’t have a PC with the proper card slot around to upgrade the firmware, we’ve finally sent them back to the distributor for repair. They are not back yet :-((
Could you please tell me which firmware version you have?
TIA,
Uli
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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I dunno. I use Firmtek cases which are pretty quiet. The G5s and drives are all located in our machine room, so our bays are completely silent. When rendering, the G5s are louder than any drive enclousre I’ve used.
The Norco uses three 70mm fans. I don’t know how loud they are. But you could replace them with these:
https://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/acoustiproductsfans/afdp-7025bAnd since you’d be using 8 drive bays instead of all 12, you can get away with just using 2 fans.
Modern drives are much more resistant to heat than before. And even if you’re uber paranoid, just remembter that RAID 5 gives you a level of protection much greater than any cooling system.
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