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Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board…
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[Jeremy Garchow] “And the undermining of X editors continues.”
In fairness, though, said undermining/good-natured ribbing of X editors was preceded by a little undermining/good-natured ribbing of non-X editors.
Remember how often we had to watch that “Writing video” render progress bar with Legend? There are major speed gains (and thus free time for posting?) to be had with Premiere or FCPX with this feature alone, without even getting into product-specific workflow efficiencies.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Haha.
But that has nothing to do with being “under employed” due to software used.
Or the notion of nodal composting being too complicated for “X editors” that our poor wittle (yes wittle) heads will explode.
Or that Motion users couldn’t even handle Ae.
Or that the rest of fcs3 was too much for an “editor”.
None of these have anything to do with each other.
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[Scott Witthaus] ” After just coming off a Premiere job, I can see it’s just fear and jealousy…”
Details anyone?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Details anyone?”
I think he was using CS6.
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[Andrew Kimery] “I think he was using CS6.”
If true, he might as well compare it to cutting on Legacy, *edit, or media 100. Just because Adobe has the decency to support it’s final perpetual product doesn’t make it any less DOA.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Or the notion of nodal composting being too complicated for “X editors” that our poor wittle (yes wittle) heads will explode. “
Was I so unclear in that other thread that it came across this way?
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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I know what you meant, but still, it just feels like we are idiots for ever choosing anything that has to do with Apple, or for being interested in more tools, or that we are underemployed, or that Apple’s take or leave it attitude is unique in some way to industry? The Adobe CFO is now on record saying he looks at himself in the mirror and tells himself that what is best for Adobe is best for the customer. That is crystal clear. (Sorry, I am crossing a few different threads here).
I think that X is for simpletons is a misnomer, as a matter of fact, very smart people that don’t want to figure it out, so it can’t be all THAT simple, because if it was too simple, there’d be nothing to figure out.
X is not a nodal compositor, that’s for sure. And your insights to how images need to be expressed in nodes vs layers vs whatever X’s method is (abstract vs implicit) are great, but just because a person uses X doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be interested any anything else.
Let’s flip it the other way around. What can X do for someone that is primarily a Fusion compositor, if and when Fusion comes to the Mac? Maybe good things, especially since Blackmagic is working with FCPXML?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Let’s flip it the other way around. What can X do for someone that is primarily a Fusion compositor, if and when Fusion comes to the Mac?”
My gut reaction was to say that X can probably do a lot for someone that is primarily a compositor because X would probably be the easiest NLE for them to learn, but now I feel like you are going to throw a lamp at my head for thinking I implied that X is only for people that don’t know how to edit. 😉
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[Jeremy Garchow] ” it just feels like we are idiots for ever choosing anything that has to do with Apple, or for being interested in more tools, or that we are underemployed, or that Apple’s take or leave it attitude is unique in some way to industry?”
Look who’s grumpy now. My remark was strictly counterpunching and not meant to be taken seriously.
[Jeremy Garchow] “The Adobe CFO is now on record saying he looks at himself in the mirror and tells himself that what is best for Adobe is best for the customer. That is crystal clear.”
Yes, from the ubiquitous “my way or the highway” school of marketing. But at least with Adobe it’s the business side, not the design team, that leads with that attitude.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bob Woodhead] “Why is it that this forum (and techniques) seem to be far more active than the others?
Could it be that we’re done editing sooner, and thus have more time to post?”
Playful joke about non-X editors
[Herb Sevush] “Or that your underemployed and have more time to post?”
Playful joke about X editors.
[Keith Koby] “Perhaps old editors in their retirement have lots of time to be cranky on message boards…”
Playful joke about non-X editors
[Jeremy Garchow] “And the undermining of X editors continues.”
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