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Grant Petty on the new MP
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[Herb Sevush] ” There is apparently a cutoff point beyond which they do not care to go. Another trade off of walled-in simplicity for higher end power. I think the market targeting of their new “high-end” work station goes hand in hand with their marketing of X – we will go this far and no further: abandon all hope of Tesla ye who enters here.”
yes – still at least this is just honest to god new hardware?
and… OMFG? 12GB GPU something?
1250MB/s storage performance?the point is I’m a moron. I run out old hardware for years and I’m never going to buy this anyway. They do seem to be adhering to playstation blowout ‘roided logic though.
and they did actually physically build entirely new architecture. And they have stamped it built in the USA. you can’t pull that effort back in a hurry.
whatever else – at least its not another ipad?https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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forget the game console line – I only mean it holds the same logic – it’s not a cell processor like – its an industry offering – its not GPU dependent, its OpenCl dependent – you would just really feel that apple are re-asserting that kind of buying paradigm for Pro’s.
that you can buy the pro equivalent of a PS3, a mac pro that now suddenly weirdly looks like some kind of PS3, and sit on it for a while given it has performance rabies at introduction.
that cylinder actually does look to have some deadly serious spec rabies – the question is how far it strays from two and a bit grand?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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What expansion do you need? The graphics are far more powerful than just about anything on the market today and SIX Thunderbolt 2 ports will eliminate any bottleneck one might have – you can put a RedRocket on one, a RAID on another and I/O on another with massive bandwidth to each device. AJA and BMD both make Thunderbolt I/O today and you know they’re gonna have 4K I/O soon. Heck you can run a 4K client monitor via the HDMI 1.4 port on the Mac Pro so no I/O needed?
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Sure this is for professionals. What a silly argument it has been to say Apple doesn’t care about professionals. Lots of iDevices are used by professionals every day. Clearly this isn’t for all professionals as needs vary.
Personally I think it is potentially limited for many pros but then hasn’t the MacPro always only gone so far. If Grant is happy with Resolve running on a prototype then for many it is a suitable machine for professional work, particularly if you are running X.
Weird shape, but all my machines are in a machine room so no-one will see it. Will it outperform a box that I can make for less money? Probably not but not everyone wants to build their own grunt box. Will I be able to get better performance with Resolve on my rack mount Win 7 boxes? I should think so. Do I need FCPX in my post finish workflow? So far still no. I am happy for the FCPX editors that a more serious box is going to be available. I don’t think I need it to run my Legacy system and until demand for Legacy stops, my 2009 MacPro is suitable.
This pretty much is what Craig has been guessing at for a while so no real surprises and well guessed sir. I sense huge relief from many that there is a serious bit of kit coming from Apple after three years but shouldn’t we wait for the benchmarks and price tags?
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[Lance Bachelder] “Also, The ATI Fire line supports true 10bit output like Quadro so along with Thunderbolt 2 and HDMI 1.4 built in, we may finally have 10bit output with no additional I/O needed.”
Goodness, I hope so. The hardware for 10-bit displays has been available on the Mac platform for years, but Apple hasn’t seen fit to support it in the OS. Maybe with 4K. That would sure be mavericky.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Chris Kenny] “This takes it further. The Mac has been much more homogenous than Windows, but at the level of, say, video workstations, RAID controllers, graphics, video I/O, etc. were all still variable. Now RAID will often just be Thunderbolt mass storage, and there’s going to be one model of GPU (with some variants) to worry about every 12-18 months. (Video I/O is still going to require devices with third-party drivers, etc. I think, unless Apple has some unannounced plans for that HDMI port.)”
Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see how it takes it significantly further when the software will still have to be generalized enough to run on a a variety of Macs running a variety of software, hardware, firmware, drivers and operating systems. Sure, I can see some vague optimizations like software will run better with ATI GPUs than NVIDIA (which was the case for Color and Motion in the past) but I don’t see any software optimization remotely close to the level of a game for a video game console.
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[Lance Bachelder] “What expansion do you need?”
The question could also be, what is the cost to upgrade my existing infrastructure..?
How much to I/O my rocket? How much to I/O my AJA or decklink? How much for my fibre? Do I outfit ANOTHER rig with ANOTHER power supply.
This is the future? Odd place to go. Kinda just pushes one to PC…
It appears the added cost is an issue for expansion on an otherwise expensive (??) empty parking space. For the right price this would be something…
But, wait what…? Wasn’t the appeal to the Mac Pro the customization. Maybe that’s why it looks like a garbage pail, you can toss all the expansion daisy chained I/O you need in it?
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[Sandeep Sajeev] “Can you expand on why you feel this MacPro isn’t going to work for you?”
I have no idea yet whether this will work for me or not. I won’t know till I see prices and configurations. It is not the machine I wish they had designed, however it’s much better than the MacPro I currently have. I’m very used to not getting what I want and then working with what’s left, so I wouldn’t be surprised to find me owning one of these and cutting with X if it’s the best choice by next spring. I’ll be pissing and moaning the whole way, but then I always have.
[Sandeep Sajeev] ” I seem to remember from one of your posts way back that the main issue that you had with FCPX was the lack of Timecode overlays and Sync Markers, but i also remember thinking that the whole Multicam implementation would really be beneficial for your workflow. I cannot imagine that those 2 issues won’t be fixed in the next number release – especially since the new MacPro seems to be far more focused than the iMac.”
As far as I can tell FCPX has the best multicam implementation available at the moment. On the other hand I’m not as sure as you that X will ever come up with Sync Markers and a suitable Timecode overlay system because it flies in the face of their overall concept of what editing should be – part of which is the whole notion of keeping your audio connected to your video so that newbies won’t loose sync. It’s something I can work around; again, few systems are perfect – I never thought Legacy was, that’s for sure. It was simply the best available at the time.
[Sandeep Sajeev] ” I just realized that the Julia Child show was yours, and as it was one of my mothers favorite shows, I saw a LOT of episodes growing up :)”
I only worked on the later Julia Child shows from the ’90s, grey as I am I was not working on the original shows back in the 60’s and 70’s. It was one of my life’s great pleasures to work with her when I did, and I’m glad your mother enjoy’ed them.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bill Davis] “I have to compete in the open market with my tools and abilities. After today – I can see another long stretch of years where I can face my competition and simply say “bring it.””
Yeah, I just did a project in X. No sweat…except for the stuff that’s still broken/odd.
It’s not that hard to learn. After all, how did the people who make the training learn it if it was?
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Just a note: the Core Technologies Overview doc for OS X Mavericks notes that the OS “has been tested to support up to 128GB of physical RAM on qualified Mac computers.” I’m guessing this is a nod toward the RAM capabilities of the new Mac Pro…
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