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Jakub Vomacka
June 10, 2013 at 11:46 pmaccording to various info found on the net about gpu specifications and bandwidth, i think this is the card used: https://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/WORKSTATION/GRAPHICS/ATI-FIREPRO-3D/W9000/Pages/w9000.aspx#3
here is some more info: https://www.anandtech.com/show/6137/the-amd-firepro-w9000-w8000-review-part-1/2
basically its workstation version of 7970 with better specs and large amount of ram
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Andrew Kimery
June 10, 2013 at 11:51 pm[Jim Wiseman] “Apple will develop software, FCPX, Motion and Aperture come to mind, and so will others.”
Yes, but it won’t be perfectly optimized for the 2013 Mac Pro Tube because said software will also have to run on dozens of other Macs with different hardware, firmware and OS versions.
That’s my point about this *not* being like a video game console where the console is released once and for the next 5-10yrs all the software is designed specifically to run on that never-changing platform. Games actually get better over time as developers learn how to coax the most out of a console. I highly doubt that in 2018 there will be new software released that is optimized to run on a 2013 Mac Pro Tube the way games in 2018 will be optimized to run on the PS4 and Xbox One video game consoles.
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Chris Kenny
June 10, 2013 at 11:51 pm[Andrew Kimery] “A key difference of course being that all software and hardware is designed specifically for that game console. No one is going to optimize software to the point that it that only runs on a 2013 Mac Pro Tube.”
No to the point that it only runs on this machine, obviously, but certainly pro app developers will test quite a lot on these systems, and the consistency they’ll bring for graphics, high-speed external disk I/O, etc. will mean more users running on systems more similar to those that developers are using. That does bring real benefits — it’s always been one of the Mac’s benefits in pro use cases, and this system extends that.
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Andrew Kimery
June 10, 2013 at 11:53 pm[Chris Kenny] “That does bring real benefits — it’s always been one of the Mac’s benefits in pro use cases, and this system extends that.”
I agree that platform homogeny has been a benefit with Macs for a very long time which is why I don’t understand why some people are touting it as new benefit today.
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Chris Kenny
June 10, 2013 at 11:57 pmThis takes it further. The Mac has been much more homogenous than Windows, but at the level of, say, video workstations, RAID controllers, graphics, video I/O, etc. were all still variable. Now RAID will often just be Thunderbolt mass storage, and there’s going to be one model of GPU (with some variants) to worry about every 12-18 months. (Video I/O is still going to require devices with third-party drivers, etc. I think, unless Apple has some unannounced plans for that HDMI port.)
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Walter Soyka
June 10, 2013 at 11:58 pm[Chris Kenny] “No to the point that it only runs on this machine, obviously, but certainly pro app developers will test quite a lot on these systems, and the consistency they’ll bring for graphics, high-speed external disk I/O, etc. will mean more users running on systems more similar to those that developers are using. That does bring real benefits — it’s always been one of the Mac’s benefits in pro use cases, and this system extends that.”
More important than that — Apple is really pushing OpenCL with this system.
If a developer can exploit OpenCL with good and highly parallel code, then the performance of their app will scale as the users climb the Apple hardware ladder.
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 11, 2013 at 12:12 am[Bill Davis] “Glad you’re joining in the global “X-rocks” celebration today”
Good god please no – not that – that software is still effectively ridiculous.
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Larry Towers
June 11, 2013 at 12:19 amThe New Macpro looks great. TODAY. With no expansion running at anywhere near internal bus speeds it is not a longterm investment choice. Let’s hope they are cheap.
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Craig Seeman
June 11, 2013 at 12:22 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “ood god please no – not that – that software is still effectively ridiculous.”
Only now it’ll be blindingly fast ridiculous on this box. Kinda like that mutant alien that you can only see out of the corner of your eye the instant before you’re disemboweled by it.
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Bill Davis
June 11, 2013 at 12:25 am[Craig Seeman] “Kinda like that mutant alien that you can only see out of the corner of your eye the instant before you’re disemboweled by it.”
OK, that made me laugh.
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