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Going mad with FCP crashes – searching for movie data in file “..FIN..”
Hello all and happy obama years to you!
I have two projets which were started at work and I am finishing them at home.
I copied all the media, including render files, over to a usb drive then to my home raid.
After linking I had all intact, but FCP insists on telling me every few seconds for about 10 minutes that it is looking for media in some render file. Usually it is the same file over and over again. Then after a couple of minutes FCP crashes and after a restart I have to watch the same messages again and again etc…
I have searched and found the most mentioned render file. It plays fine in Finder, and nothing seems wrong. I have no “missing media” clips, but my editing has almost come to a stand still because of these messages and crashing. This is on a day when I worked till 1am this morning, and am now at it again for a client who wants it now now now!
Any suggestions most welcome.
When I get a moment I will write about my problems with Motion/FCP integration which is very buggy still.Tx
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Searching for data movie file can also apply to a reference file. If something was rendered yesterday, you exported a reference movie, and then went back and re-rendered something in that reference file, it can cause havoc if a project is moved.
As a general rule, we never move render files when moving a project from one hard drive to another. Unless both hard drive have the exact same names and file structure, there are usually issues with render files. We just create fresh renders on the new drives.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Hi Walt,
Thats probably the problem…
The one project was done by one editor and I did the other, so I am a bit scared to delete all his render files just in case they cant be made again. Oh god. FCP just crashed again as I was typing this.
grrrr…Thanks anyway, live and learn, I guess…
Mark.
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[Mark Palmos] “The one project was done by one editor and I did the other, so I am a bit scared to delete all his render files just in case they cant be made agai”
As long as you have all the original media, renders files don’t matter. They can always be recreated. If you’re missing any media in your project, then you’ll be in trouble, but that’s easy to spot. Just look at your timeline and your bins. Any media missing? If not, trash the render files.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Walter,
I have gone to render manager and delted all renders but still get that message, and it is definitely relating to a render file. Is there any way in FCP to see where any file is being used. I did not edit this section and have no idea where or why it is still trying to reference a render file when the render files list in render manager is blank, ie there are no renders!?TX
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The bizarre thing is that the render file Case_Pago-FIN-00000003 is actually there! I keep on finding it manually, but it never seems to be satisfied.
Theres got to be a much better way to transport a project. Even worse that this one is the way FCStudio puts custom motion templates deep in your system folders (which cannot even be searched without a special non-default parameter). There should be a way to point a project to a folder and say “stick ALL I need in there” – from fonts to motion, renders, still images audio clips etc etc.
High on my wish list because I plan to do more work from home.
Catcha later
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Mark,
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hey there buddy boy,
i will, just ramming my head down this project’s throat to get something out by the end of play today (and end of play meaning before midnight!)
i will call later mate
tx
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[Mark Palmos] “Theres got to be a much better way to transport a project.”
Media Manager is one way. But we’ve done dozens of project transfers without the type of issue you’re talking about.
When I use a freelance editor we’ll capture everything to our drives, transfer the media to a local drive for them to take, and then they just send me the project file and we master out from here. Works well.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Hi
Yes, I might try media manager next time.
I wonder if MM will deal with EVERYTHING including motion templates, images from other projects, and Im sure it wouldnt do fonts (something that snagged me yesterday).
Tx
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I am also having this problem. I’ve narrowed it down to the reference file relationship but can’t work out why it’s happening on some not others.
After doing some reading on the net, I saw it suggested to output clips as ref. QTs then reimport to prevent the huge analysis times of smoothcam, so I have these things all through out my project.
It’s driving me nuts as the render time on these sequences is on the big side – min 40 minutes – so re-rendering all the time is really slowing me down.
I was also finding that FCP was just randomly losing render files all the time anyway and I found that outputting ref QTs then nesting them into new sequences, along with other footage) seemed to solve that problem. For a while.
Well, the re-render of my sub-comp sequence is done, am going to nest it directly into it’s intended sequence rather than doing ref QTs and see how that goes.
“It made sense at the time”
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