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  • Posted by Adam Schmidt on April 27, 2005 at 6:56 pm

    Hi all,
    Just the heads up. Apple launched new dual 2.7GHZ G5 macs that ship with tiger, and I just hopped over to my local apple store were they had three in stock. Now they have two. Damn she is one fast mac. Loading FCP4.5 and motion. More later, must play. Oh and I am graming 4GB of ram this afternoon.

    I just posted the xBench for this mac.
    https://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc1=108025&doc2=1&setCookie=true

    Adam

    Results 265.86
    System Info
    Xbench Version 1.1.3
    System Version 10.4 (8A428)
    Physical RAM 512 MB
    Model PowerMac7,3
    Processor PowerPC G5x2 @ 2.70 GHz
    L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
    L2 Cache 512K @ 2.70 GHz
    Bus Frequency 1 GHz
    Video Card ATY,RV351
    Drive Type Maxtor 6B250S0
    CPU Test 237.11
    GCD Loop 151.71 5.92 Mops/sec
    Floating Point Basic 427.90 1.55 Gflop/sec
    AltiVec Basic 182.37 5.30 Gflop/sec
    vecLib FFT 220.15 3.42 Gflop/sec
    Floating Point Library 468.92 18.77 Mops/sec
    Thread Test 289.07
    Computation 208.35 2.81 Mops/sec, 4 threads
    Lock Contention 471.89 5.93 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test 378.41
    System 505.77
    Allocate 817.42 533.20 Kalloc/sec
    Fill 784.43 6244.02 MB/sec
    Copy 291.26 1456.28 MB/sec
    Stream 302.30
    Copy 259.61 1897.77 MB/sec [G5]
    Scale 263.41 1944.00 MB/sec [G5]
    Add 346.45 2217.28 MB/sec [G5]
    Triad 370.72 2265.13 MB/sec [G5]
    Quartz Graphics Test 311.70
    Line 274.96 7.00 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 257.79 18.14 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 279.96 6.45 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 299.23 3.25 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 620.69 10.12 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 288.07
    Spinning Squares 288.07 201.59 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 454.39
    Elements 454.39 146.15 refresh/sec
    Disk Test 140.25
    Sequential 164.08
    Uncached Write 159.98 66.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 137.70 56.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 273.76 43.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 138.66 56.02 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 122.46
    Uncached Write 295.09 4.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 101.82 22.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 99.90 0.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 105.88 21.79 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    George Loch replied 21 years ago 10 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Chris Paul

    April 27, 2005 at 7:05 pm

    Just a speed bump. I will wait till they build one with PCIexpress- seems like GPU’s are becoming as important as CPU’s!

    Chris Paul
    POV

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 27, 2005 at 7:21 pm

    we’ve been discussing the new macs down below this morning. not too many folks seem all that excited about them, but I was happy to snap up an original G5 Dual 2.0 for $1,894. I’ll wait till the Dual Core processing comes along before making a big jump.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Troy E. parker

    April 27, 2005 at 7:59 pm

    Hey Adam,

    Thanks for the performance report…looks like the old G4 will not be missed too much. I am looking to upgrade the G4 / Cinewave to a G5/ BMD – AJA solution, and if we don’t see the 3m Dual-Core, Dual CPU, PCIexpress etc etc etc by June (chances getting slimmer every day)the extra speed-bump will be most welcome as every little bit counts these days, and when you need it is the best time to buy…

    Have fun!
    Troy

  • Graeme Nattress

    April 27, 2005 at 8:12 pm

    Yes, that will help tremendously. FCP won’t get fantastic real time performance until you can pull video back off the GPU as fast as you can put it up there.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Adam Schmidt

    April 27, 2005 at 8:14 pm

    OMG, the coolest thing about 10.4 is the RSS screensave. It pulls RSS feeds and posts them on a blue moing backdrop. to get the ful story, just type the number of the story. its all 3d opengl, and way too cool.

    Leed story: G5 2.7
    Then it hoppen to ABC news : iraq…

    This mac is too cool! Installing FCP 4.5 now, I don’t know what will happen with QT7, and the old FCP.

    Adam

  • Dave Mac

    April 27, 2005 at 9:15 pm

    Adam,

    Thanks for the xbench results. I have a dual 2.5GHz G5 with 4.5 Gb RAM and a nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra (under 10.3.9). I ran xbench and compared the results to yours.

    For 8% faster CPUs and a slower (?) graphics card, your overal xbench score is 19% higher. The largest increases were for the OpenGL and User Interface Tests, at 52% and 31%, respectively. The Quartz Graphics Test showed an increase of only 5%.

    Threading, memory, and CPU tests showed increases of 16% -22%.

    So, we should hopefully see some significant increases in performance in Final Cut Pro (unless 5.0 itself is more of a resource hog… even so, there should be some nice performance bumps).

    -Dave

  • Adam Schmidt

    April 28, 2005 at 12:27 am

    Ok, so apple released the dual 2.7 GHZ G5 macs today, and I was first in line to buy one at the stonestown apple store. I came home and have been testing for six hours.

    The set up:
    G5 Dual 2.7GHZ
    MAC OS 10.4.0 Tiger
    512MB Ram (I have orderd 4GB)
    512GB SATA internal drive (have not conected the raid yet.)
    AJA io (full) Drivers 1.3.1 (I have not tested the beta control pannel yet)

    Sorce Deck: Sony J-30
    Formats: Dbeat and Beta SP

    Captured at: D25, D50, UC8bit, and UC10bit
    All 30min docs, all without drop frames, all works great.

    Hopped into Ae6.5, and video out works great (boy is this mac fast, makes AE look like motion).

    I don’t know what AJA thinks is wrong but everything worked.

    Now onto the UC10bit stress tests. I hooked up my Medea RTRS 320 to my UL4D ATTO card.
    Six UC10bit (tiled 3 top 3 bottom) Stream, no drop frame warnings.
    Started to add Color corection to the clips. First two and the “Safe- High” setting was still green.
    I added CC to 3 and the bar truned red. Droped down to “unlimited -high” and had an orange bar, but no drop frames.
    Added 2 more CCs (up to 6 clips, 5 with cc) and 7 minutes into the program I hit my first drop frame.

    DV (D25) tests: D25 playing out the io. 5 streams (tiled) three with CC, no drop frames.
    And this is all on 512MB or ram.

    On to more testing,
    Adam

  • Adam Schmidt

    April 28, 2005 at 1:04 am

    QT 7 provides for 24 tracks of audio. Right now i can not record more than two, must need a driver update. Also the Qt player has a record feature that makes H.264 files in real time. The video side works with the io but not the audio, I just hest hiss on all imputs.

    Adam

  • Paul Harb

    April 28, 2005 at 1:54 am

    boring….I agree, no dual core, no PCIExpress, no thanks…..2 year technology at $3000….sweet deal….

    Paul

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 28, 2005 at 2:15 am

    boring….I agree, no dual core, no PCIExpress, no thanks…..2 year technology at $3000….sweet deal….

    After looking over everything further, I have to agree, this is a bit of a disappointment. But as always, great deals to be had on the older machines. I’m just happy to finally move the G4 out of the second suite and get the original Dual 2.0 with a 20″ monitor for less than the 2.7 alone. I’ll save my $3k for when the dual core machines get out. 2.7 is certainly a nice upgrade for anyone who is still on a G4, but for folks with a current G5, either hold tight or pick up a sweet deal on the original models and wait for the dual core machines.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

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