Frustrated at Macbook Pro Final Cut 5.1.1 and G4 FCP 5.0.4

[Piotr Janowski]

the crossgrade version 5.1 reads older projects but the older versions of FCP will not read Your 5.1. projects.
It frustrates me to.
Piotr

[Aaron Neitz]

Just install the 5.1.1 on your G4. there’s no reason you can’t install FCP on your main system and a travelling (laptop) system.

[Tom Wolsky]

Other than that it violating the licensing agreement under which you purchased use of the software.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” DVD

[Toby Angwin]

You can easily export an xml of the project from 5.1.1 and import that back into 5.0.4 maintaining most if not all effects and stuff you have done. This won’t violate your license. I did this to get a project back on a clients fcp4 suite. But do you really want to work on the SLOW g4 if you have a macbook and the universal FCP?

Toby Angwin

[Bob Roberts]

I don’t have it right in front of me, but I don’t believe it violates the agreement provided you are not using both versions at the same time. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[Kerry Brown]

License agreement states “This license does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time,”
Some have said that Apple has said you could have it on two computers as long as you are only using it on one at a time.
I have tried to find where it says that its okay t. But no luck. If someone knows please post.

Kerry

[Tom Wolsky]

Unless it’s been changed in this version, the Apple license agreement is that you only have the software installed on one machine at any one time.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” DVD

[Martin Baker]

This is the relevant section of the Final Cut Studio license agreement (initial 2005 release):

This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time.

Pretty clear cut. The license agreement has been changed for the FCS5.1 release, but it seems less clear:

This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on one Apple-labeled desktop computer and one Apple-labeled laptop computer so long as both computers are owned and used by you. The Apple Software may be used to reproduce materials so long as such use is limited to reproduction of non-copyrighted materials, materials in which you own the copyright, or materials you are authorized or legally permitted to reproduce. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. You may make one copy of the Apple Software in machinereadable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original.

The first sentence suggests that you can install on two systems (no mention about running both simultaneously). The third sentence says the software can’t exist on more than one computer at a time, unless they meant to say can’t RUN on more than one computer at a time. OK I give in. My head hurts…

Martin
Digital Heaven, London UK
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[Rennie Klymyk]

[Martin Baker] “This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on one Apple-labeled desktop computer and one Apple-labeled laptop computer so long as both computers are owned and used by you.”

The 1st line says it all as far as I read it. One desktop and one laptop one FCP and one owner/user.

I wish: I work alone in a one man office with 3 desktops. When one is tied up with a 3 hour encode I would like to hope over to another machine and continue working on motion or whatever. This is 1 customer, 3 towers, one FCP and one wage. I’d like to see it where the licensed owner can work it 24/7 if he wants as long as he is the only one. If that licensed user wants to layout the loot for more towers apple is doing good. Trouble is it is too hard to police. The problem is when a 2nd person sits down and starts working (making a wage). In a large facility there are too many potential users around and more than the licenced owner could be drawing a wage from the one license. I currently have 2 FCP licenses but I’m not a full time editor, I do everything around here and these upgrades are killing me. I guess it’s just too difficult for the software producers to cover every scenario in their license agreements. Rental suites are an example. Editors need only own hard drives and 5 different people use the same edit bay in one day. Maybe in the future all commercial video will need credits with the editors license number which will have to match a hidden watermark imbedded in each video frame. “2084”?

The concept of one laptop and one tower is definately a step in the right direction, now I would like to see Apple adapt a “transfer of ownership” system like adobe has had for many years.

“everything is broken”

[Aaron Neitz]

alright everyone. go enjoy the weekend. time to stop reading license agreements 🙂