Frame Range oddity

[Michael Szalapski]

I’m very, very new to Cinema 4d, so it could just be that I’m an idiot somewhere along the way, but maybe not.
Here’s my problem. I was following along with a fun little tutorial where I’m to make an object move across a water’s surface using After Effects to generate the displacement with Wave World.
Anyway, I was having a problem with it. The video I rendered out of AE was ending too soon. Then I checked how many frames it rendered and it was less than what I thought it should be. So I went back into my render settings of Cinema 4d (which is where I created the AE file with the coordinates of my object), I saw that I had set the Frame range to be all frames which listed – correctly – that it was

From… OF To… 124F
Frame Step 1
Fields…None

But right below that it says

Frames: 104 (from 0 to 103)

Either I’m not understanding something or there’s a setting somewhere that I’m missing.

The animation seems correct in AE, just sped up. And the resulting video rendered out of AE goes the correct distance, but again, it’s sped up.
The frame rate in the AE comp is 25 fps as is the Frame Rate of the Cinema 4D Render Settings…

I just don’t understand why I say “Do frame 0 to frame 124” and it says “Sure! I’ll give you frame 0 to 103.”

I also tried upping the end frame in the frame range until the frames said 0 to 124, but that didn’t help either. The animation in AE and, indeed, the AE comp itself were all 103 frames.

I suspect I’ve done something, but, as a newbie, I haven’t the slightest idea what it is.

– The Great Szalam
(The ‘Great’ stands for ‘Not So Great, in fact, Extremely Humble’)

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[Walter Soyka]

[Michael Szalapski] “The frame rate in the AE comp is 25 fps as is the Frame Rate of the Cinema 4D Render Settings… I just don’t understand why I say “Do frame 0 to frame 124” and it says “Sure! I’ll give you frame 0 to 103.””

Your render settings frame rate may be 25, but your project frame rate is still 30 fps. The discrepancy in frame ranges is because C4D is keeping the actual duration (in seconds) the same across your two different frame rates.

You can set the document frame rate under Edit > Project Settings…

Walter Soyka
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[Michael Szalapski]

Thanks Walter. I was fairly sure it was something stupid I overlooked. I hate being a newb all over again, but we must have 3d so I must expand my skillset.
I appreciate it.

– The Great Szalam
(The ‘Great’ stands for ‘Not So Great, in fact, Extremely Humble’)

No trees were harmed in the creation of this message, but several thousand electrons were mildly inconvenienced.

[Walter Soyka]

Michael, you and I are in the same boat — I just ran across this myself a couple weeks ago.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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