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  • Frame by Frame Scrubbing with Blackmagic Decklink?

    Posted by Cliff Stephenson on June 27, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Not sure where this is most relevant so if you see a post over in the Blackmagic forum, please forgive. Just as many others this week, I’m making a full transition from Final Cut Pro to Premiere Pro CS5.5.

    I’ve looked around for nearly two days now and haven’t been able to find an answer. Here’s my issue and I’m praying there’s a way to set this correctly.

    I’m on late 2009 Mac Pro dual quad-core with the NVidia GeForce GT120 card with 12GB of RAM and a Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme 2. The NVidia is running out to the standard monitor and the Blackmagic is running HDMI out to a 32″ Sony HD monitor. Audio is running from the Blackmagic left and right analog outs to a pair of studio monitors.

    I generally cut documentary and behind the scenes work and, as such, a typical way I cut is that I use the preview/source window to set my in and out points and then drag the set clip into the timeline (not too unusual), but I like to use the audio scrubbing to find the break between words (sometimes also having to insert words from elsewhere in the interview to “construct” the complete sentence). So frame accuracy with audio is a big part of my editorial process. So when creating a Blackmagic sequence with my XDCAM EX 1080p24 footage I’m having trouble figuring out playback to get frame by frame scrubbing to work consistently.

    If I go into the Premiere Pro preferences and select “Blackmagic Design Playback,” when I go to my project I can see the video played through my HDMI and hear the audio from the external speakers, but I can’t get frame by frame forward or backward audio scrubbing. If I switch over to Adobe Player in the ‘Player Settings’ of the Premiere Pro preferences, I can now get frame by frame scrubbing in the source window, but no video through HDMI and I can get video through HDMI from the timeline but no frame by frame scrubbing from the timeline. Additionally, forward or reverse using ‘L’ or “J’ with “Blackmagic Design Playback” is pretty bad as it sounds like the audio is racing through, but the video looks to be moving at almost real time pace. Using “Adobe Player” doesn’t have this slow glitching.

    Is anyone able to do frame by frame scubbing in both windows while getting their video out from both source and Timeline via HDMI? In Final Cut, frame by frame movement using the left or right arrow would give you scrubbing from either and it seems odd to me that Premiere Pro isn’t doing it. I was thinking about moving over to the Matrox Mini, but I don’t want to go that route if frame by frame scrubbing in all windows isn’t available on that either.

    Thanks in advance.

    John Pale replied 15 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    June 27, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Sounds more like a Blackmagic issue than an Adobe one. I can get frame by frame scrubbing using the arrows left or right or using the JKL hold K and use L for 1 frame fwd or hold K and tap J for rew 1 frame.

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  • John Pale

    June 27, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Ha! same problem here with Decklink Studio.

    I’ve been chasing my tail over this one since yesterday. Reinstalling the drivers package and Googling for solutions.

    If I can’t get this one working, I guess I’ll have to scratch Premiere Pro off the list of FCP alternatives. (even if it is a BMD problem)

  • John Pale

    June 27, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    More info..

    Though I am having the same problem, I have different hardware.

    Mac Pro Quad 2.66 2006
    Monitoring a/v via HDSDI and analog audio
    Decklink studio card
    ATi radeon 4870 (mercury playback software only)

    no frame by frame scrub in timeline, only in the source viewer using adobe player.

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