for owners of Panasonic Pro Plasmas

[Rory Brennan]

Generally the more things you run through the more delay. I noticed this drasically today when patching some HD video around a patch bay to different decks and monitors.

We have from the same video switcher a DVI line to a HD Sony Monitor and a SDI line to a Kona SDI to HDMI convertor to the plasma. because of this step in the line there is a slight delay though only about 1/3 a second.

looks great though

[Walter Biscardi]

[Welder] ”
If I loop, say, a component signal through my Sony PVM monitor (a CRT) and into the Plasma, will there be a noticeable delay between the images on the two monitors?”

With 720p there is zero delay.

With 1080i, we set an offset of 2.

We have the 42″ and 50″ models and they’re both spot on using those settings. We have both of them looped through a PVM monitor, but the offsets hold even when they are fed directly by our Konas.

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[Michael]

Thanks for the info…

Walter, this may be a stupid question but…

What about normal SD material? Does the interpolation going on in the Panasonic cause any delay?

Michael

[David Roth weiss]

Michael,

You can’t loop an HD signal through a SD monitor.

David

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Welder] ”

What about normal SD material? Does the interpolation going on in the Panasonic cause any delay?”

SD material looks pretty lousy on the displays. They are really for HD and HD only. Interlaced SD material just does not look on these displays.

As David notes in his reply, ensure that you have a MultiFormat HD Sony PVM display. If it’s an SD only display, you can’t loop an HD signal through it.

Ours are the PVM/L5 series which are SD/HD multiformat.

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[Michael]

Walter, thanks again.

David: Of course you can’t loop hd through an SD monitor. I’m only thinking about SD to SD for the moment. I work mostly in SD. I want the pannny as a large client monitor, while I use a SD CRT for my ref.

I know SD doesn’t look too good on such a monitor. I guess I’ll just have to try one out and see if it’s good enough for my purpose (client viewing, not too close.)

Michael

[Walter Biscardi]

[Welder] ”
I know SD doesn’t look too good on such a monitor. I guess I’ll just have to try one out and see if it’s good enough for my purpose (client viewing, not too close.)”

Just so you know, we don’t. I won’t let clients watch SD on these monitors. If it’s an SD project, they only watch them on the PVM monitors. Panny’s are only used for client review of HD projects…

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[Rich Rubasch]

Hey guys. I have the Kona LH and the breakout box. I run the component outputs to a Sony PVM 14U SD NTSC monitor for SD monitoring. I use the loop outs on the monitor and run them to a Dell 24 inch LCD for HD monitoring. Works great. the Sony SD monitor only shows a bunch of diagonal lines (no image) but the LCD displays HD material via the component signal just fine.

What do you mean you can’t loop an HD signal thru the Sony monitor? I do it all the time!

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media

[Walter Biscardi]

[Rich Rubasch] “What do you mean you can’t loop an HD signal thru the Sony monitor? I do it all the time!”

I wouldn’t do that for color grading. Just to see what your HD image looks like, that might work, but I’m not a fan of a computer display for accurate color grading.

Also not sure if that HD signal is taking any sort of image hit by passing through the SD monitor. I’d have to do some research on that if we were going to employ that method here.

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[Chris Borjis]

[walter biscardi] “SD material looks pretty lousy on the displays. They are really for HD and HD only. Interlaced SD material just does not look on these displays.”

Interesting part of that is Plasma displays have the best SD picture of ALL the available flat panel technology today.

Better than LCD & Rear Projection.

But yeah the picture is definitely softer.