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  • Fire Wire Hard Drive Query

    Posted by Howie Young on October 8, 2005 at 6:36 pm

    Hello

    What is the best brand of external firewire harddrives for the MAC G4?

    I would like to incorporate multiple firewire drives into my current set-up and I’m hoping somone can suggest the best method for doing so.

    Can more than one firewire drive be added externally? If so, do I need a firewire hub or can multiple firewire drives be linked together without setting up a raid?

    My current configuration is as follows:

    Mac G4 733 with the DVD SuperDrive, 1-60 gig system drive, and 4-75 gig internal media drives.

    I also plan to use a single firewire drive to back-up my current media drives. It was suggested instead of using a plain copy program for transferring my video and render files, I should use cloning software. What is the best cloning program for for Macs?

    Can an external firewire harddrive be used as a bootable drive?

    Thanks
    Howie

    Walter Biscardi replied 20 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 8, 2005 at 6:55 pm

    LaCie and G-RAID’s are the two firewire drives I recommend. Excellent products. You can safely daisy chain two drives together. After that, it becomes dicey.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

    G5 Dual 2.0, AJA Kona 2, Medea FCR2X

  • Ed Dooley

    October 8, 2005 at 8:36 pm

    And yes, you can use an external FW drive as your boot drive. I have a G4 MDD with a FW boot drive. I use it
    for administrative stuff now, but it was my main FCP station.
    Ed

  • Howie Young

    October 8, 2005 at 11:04 pm

    A few new questions…

    1. If I am daisy chaining additional external firewire drives do I need to set-up my computer so they are all on their own individual bus and install new dedicated firewire cards for each drive, or, do the drive plug into one another without any problems?

    2. Can my video deck be on the same bus as either new drive?

    3. Do I need a cloning program to copy all of my files to the new firewire drive or can I drop and drag?

    Thanks again,

    Howie

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 8, 2005 at 11:57 pm

    [Howie] “1. If I am daisy chaining additional external firewire drives do I need to set-up my computer so they are all on their own individual bus and install new dedicated firewire cards for each drive, or, do the drive plug into one another without any problems?”

    You can daisy chain two drives together per bus from my experience. I’ve not daisy chained off a card. I only run four total firewire drives on a regular basis here on two different workstations. Two LaCie BDE’s and two G-RAID. I also run a FibreChannel array. If you use too many drives, you’ll definitely start to drop frames and have other problems. Get fewer larger arrays than a bunch of small ones.

    [Howie] “2. Can my video deck be on the same bus as either new drive? “

    I’ve had no issues daisy chaining a DV deck off the back of a single Firewire drive. Don’t do it often, and primarily when using the laptop, but it does work.

    [Howie] “3. Do I need a cloning program to copy all of my files to the new firewire drive or can I drop and drag?”

    You can use Apple’s Disc Utility to make a Disk Image and then move it to the new drive, or use Carbon Cloner.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

    G5 Dual 2.0, AJA Kona 2, Medea FCR2X

  • Howie Young

    October 9, 2005 at 12:07 am

    Hey Walter

    Thanks very much for your feedback.

    I’m looking into the following LaCie drives:

    600GB BIGDISK EXTREME USB 2.0
    500GB BIGDISK EXTREME USB 2.0
    250GB PORSCHE EXT FIREWIRE HD

    Do you have any experience with these particular drives?

    Howie

  • Steve Eisen

    October 9, 2005 at 1:02 am

    Stay away from USB!

    G5 Dual 2.5 160GB System 400GB Media Drive ATI 9800 256MB 6 GB RAM
    Dual Gig Quicksilver 1GB RAM 80 GB System drive (3) 250 GB internal media storage
    15″ Al Powerbook 1.25 1GB RAM
    OS 10.4.2 FCP 5, DVDSP 4, QT 7.02, Boris Red 3GL 2.45 TB External Stor

  • Howie Young

    October 9, 2005 at 2:27 am

    Do you mean a USB external drive or a Firewire and USB drive?

  • Howie Young

    October 9, 2005 at 2:30 am

    “You can daisy chain two drives together per bus from my experience. ”

    I have 2 Firewire ports in the back of my mahcine. I have my deck plugged into the first one. Does this mean I’ll be able to plug the first new fw drive in the other port and daisy chain the second drive off the first?

    “You can use Apple’s Disc Utility to make a Disk Image and then move it to the new drive, or use Carbon Cloner.”

    What is a carbon cloner? Can you recommend a good one?

    How can I make a disc image of an entire harddrive?

    Thanks again!

  • Howie Young

    October 9, 2005 at 2:37 am

    Walter

    Thanks for all your feedback.

    Now a little more information…

    I currently have 3 media drives in use. I believe my fourth drive needs to be replaced. It makes a grinding noise and hangs when I try to copy files to a disc to back-up. Have you ever heard of this?

    Also, I am currently in the middle of a large DVD project. I am running OS 9.2.2, FCP version 2.0.2 and iDVD version 1.1. Instead of upgrading my current system drive to OS X Tiger during this project it was suggested to use an external firewire drive as a new OS X system drive for iDVD 5. This way I can complete my project in FCP 2 but still be able to author my DVD with the latest version of iDVD.

    Will I encounter any problems running a new FW drive as my OS X system drive?

    Howie

  • Howie Young

    October 9, 2005 at 2:38 am

    Walter

    I just wanted to say thanks for your feedback.

    Howie

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