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Final Cut X update and free trial
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Hold that thought Simon.
Make it your own.
Particularly since you’re so excited by it that while the software isn’t out yet and nobody’s even USED the function, you’re ready to let us all know that it’s going to fail for many.
Nice warning.
Let me play along and add one of my own…
Everybody watch out for the door latches on the flying cars of the future!
Killers, I imagine.
(teasing mode off)
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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David,
Then would it be equally smart to avoid presuming that the coders working on FCP-X might not have actually addressed and solved such issues?
The software has only been out for minutes for heaven’s sake.
And here we are making “pronouncements” based on unproven imaginings.
This is not how wisdom propagates – elevating gossip over fact.
We don’t know if XML implementations in the FCP-X revs will be wonderful or terrible.
So anything said by either side is speculative hot air. Period.
My personal hot air about XML in FCP-X is that it will work great for some users, and fall short of the needs of others. Just like every single other thing about the software I’ve seen to date.
Big revelation, huh?
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Just because there is an XML-import/export option doesn’t mean there is an XML-translator (=import any kind of XML and make sense of the tagging system of that particular XML). To try to import an XML that isn’t encoded in a way the program in question can relate to (directly and tag for tag) will result in gibberish at best. Someone (or something) needs to actually translate the tags of the source-XML into strings that the destination program can handle. Trying to import an Digital Rapids Stream 1.5 XML into FCPS didn’t work that well either. Anyone that tried, should try something different to do with their time.
At the same time, would be nice if apple in their next effort made (at least a half assed) effort at giving us FCP7 XML translational capabilities to FCPX. As for now, the XML in/out features is just goodness waiting to happen. It merely means there are ways of getting stuff in and out of the X into/from other software, if anyone cared to teach the other end to speak/translate the markups.
Erik Lundberg
Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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From the MacWorld Article –
“The professional [editor] is critical to Apple, and it’s a customer we don’t want to lose,” said Richard Townhill, Apple’s director of pro video product marketing, in a conversation with Macworld.
About time someone from Apple actually stepped up and made this statement, though at this point it probably means “it’s a customer we’re working on getting back”.
Does anyone have any history on Mr. Townhill? I’m not familiar with him.
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I think we need to keep our perspective. This is a very minor update, not some major, “let me fix all the missing stuff” kind of update. The 2012 update sounds a bit more promising… of course depending upon when it comes out, FCP X could be almost a year old by then… which would make those two additions a lot less impressive. I know… I know… I’m supposed to give them 10 years to flesh in this revolutionary, “change the paradigm” flying car.
And no, I don’t think Apple had a grand plan all along, as has been suggested in a earlier email. I think they released a beta (or alpha) version and got their as@ handed to them, so they jumped in and did damage control. That’s what this limited XML and Xsan support is in this update.
Hopefully by next June, we’ll get more than just Multicam and professional desktop monitoring. Since they seem to be reacting to our criticisms and pressure, it’s up to us to keep the pressure on and make it happen. Tim’s right… this forum is serving a vital purpose.
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[Erik Lundberg] “Just because there is an XML-import/export option doesn’t mean there is an XML-translator (=import any kind of XML and make sense of the tagging system of that particular XML). To try to import an XML that isn’t encoded in a way the program in question can relate to (directly and tag for tag) will result in gibberish at best.”
Erik,
Try to export an XML from FCP 10.1 and try to import that… You can’t, cuz XML Export from 10.1 is also DOA.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[Mitch Ives] “Where did you see “early”… it says 2012… that’s anytime until December”
I copied and pasted from the website:
https://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/software-update.html
Jeremy
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[David Roth Weiss] “Try to export an XML from FCP 10.1 and try to import that… You can’t, cuz XML Export from 10.1 is also DOA.”
Oh, oh.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Try to export an XML from FCP 10.1 and try to import that… You can’t, cuz XML Export from 10.1 is also DOA.”
David,
Just to clarify, are you saying that if you make a new project in FCPX 10.0.1 then export that project as XML, you can’t import it back in?
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[Bill Davis] “The software has only been out for minutes for heaven’s sake.
And here we are making “pronouncements” based on unproven imaginings.
This is not how wisdom propagates – elevating gossip over fact.
We don’t know if XML implementations in the FCP-X revs will be wonderful or terrible.
So anything said by either side is speculative hot air. Period.”
Bill,
“Gossip?” “Speculative hot air?”
How does reporting the results of my own testing of both XML in and out relate to either of those?
For the record, I am a journalist by trade in film, television, and print, and I write reviews and test both hardware and software for professional industry publications, not gossip columns and tabloids.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Producing Episodic TV with “24” Producer Michael Klick:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-1_Michael-Klick/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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