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Final Cut X update and free trial
Chris Harlan replied 14 years, 7 months ago 32 Members · 89 Replies
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Scott Sheriff
September 24, 2011 at 1:55 am[Reed Black] ” I said this about him, directly to him, when FCPX was first released. I was criticized for saying “although FCPX had its flaws its still an AWESOME program.” And he immediately attacked me for it.”
Deception by omission.
You have left out why you were being criticized, and are making it sound like David swooped down from the clouds and randomly picked you out for no apparent reason. This is not accurate at all.
The way I remember this, David pointed out that you were calling X “an AWESOME program”, and going on and on about how great it was, without ever having used it, but I don’t recall the part where he attacked you. Which by the way I would say is a proper thing to do since your post could influence those on the fence into making a purchase, only to find out it was not as “AWESOME” as you claimed. To call someone out for for giving what amounts to a glowing review of something they haven’t actually used ( by your own admission) isn’t really “an attack”.
However saying you were ‘attacked’ when you weren’t, actually is an attack. How ironic.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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Kim Krause
September 24, 2011 at 9:57 amhey reed…glad some one else can see my side. i can’t stand the arrogance of some of these people. they are so shit scared of change and losing jobs to the new generation of up and comings! an open mind is all that i am asking.
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David Cherniack
September 24, 2011 at 1:23 pm[Reed Black]
“Thanks Kim! Finally! I said this about him, directly to him, when FCPX was first released. I was criticized for saying “although FCPX had its flaws its still an AWESOME program.” And he immediately attacked me for it.”Actually, Reed, he wasn’t doing that at all. He was responding to the part of your post where you stated you hadn’t even used FCP-X:
[Reed Black]
“…I gotta say, having read through the manual and watched videos on what IT CAN DO (haven’t bought it yet) its AWESOME!……This is coming from someone who’s been editing professionally since 1996. I started on a movieola, move to a flatbed KEM, then to AVID, then to FCP…..This new version has left some things out (which I understand will be back) but for now its NOT ready for primetime but when it is BOY… its going to dominate the industry like never before.”And he replied:
[David Roth Weiss]
“Reed,You’re brand new to this site, and by your own admission you neither
bought or tested FCP X, yet you’re suddenly qualified to influence
readers by characterizing this new product as “AWESOME!”?Wading in on this or any other subject on which you have zero
experience is not a good way to establish yourself here, nor does it
do service to anyone.With all the experience you claim, it would behoove you to reserve
issuing advice to others on FCP X and anything else until you have
gained at least some firsthand experience with the product.”To claim that he was taking you to task for calling FCP-X “Awesome” is disingenuous. He was merely pointing out that your opinion of its awesomeness and industry-dominating future was an opinion without the foundation of any first hand knowledge. In other words, pretty much worth ziltch.
You then go on to advise Mr. Weiss:
[Reed Black] ” DRW learn how to conduct yourself professionally here, seriously. Because you come across as a total A–HOLE! Not just in this thread but others where I’ve seen you post”
If any derogatory epithets are going to be slung around here you’re doing a good job of getting more than few running through my head. However, this list is best served by restraint, advice I have to take myself in this thread, and if you stop to think about it, advice which David was giving you in his post.
While David may not share your opinion of the glowing future of X, he stands in the company of the great majority of high end users, some of whom are even fanboys. People who’ve been around for a while see through puff and pretense, not to mention wishful thinking. So if you’re going to take him or anyone else to task for not sharing your point of view do it honestly. And have more rationale than “I read through the manual and watched videos.”
BTW if you really started editing on a Moviola in 1996, it doesn’t serve your professional credentials to tout it. Just say’in.
David
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David Cherniack
September 24, 2011 at 1:37 pm[kim krause] ” i can’t stand the arrogance of some of these people. they are so shit scared of change and losing jobs to the new generation of up and comings! an open mind is all that i am asking.”
Do you have any idea how malformed and simple minded this argument sounds? Nobody here is scared of change. You can’t be in this industry without embracing change. It’s a constant because it’s the nature of the tech the industry is built upon.
Instead of whinging about the lack of open minds (and demonstrating exactly the opposite) you may try reflecting on the old adage: “Build a better mousetrap…and the world will beat a path to your door.” Not exactly what’s going on, is it? So I guess resistance to change is really not what this is all about.
David
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Scott Sheriff
September 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm[kim krause] “i can’t stand the arrogance of some of these people. they are so shit scared of change and losing jobs to the new generation of up and comings”
Not sure who you are referring to. You and Reed can have all the 15 dollar an hour Cragslist gigs, and low pay grinders that come down the pike, as most of us are not ‘worried’ that you, or FCP X glee club will take these from us. As for real jobs, I would say the odds of finding that crashed UARS satellite in your backyard this morning are a lot better than they are of real editors loosing any jobs to you two guys. If anyone on this forum sounds “arrogant” or “shit scared”, not to mention ill-mannered and ill-informed, it would be you and Reed. Plus your profanity laced, off topic, chest thumping posts on here make you both sound like the last two guys on earth any client would want to be sitting in a room with for hours, or doing business with. You should keep in mind this is a forum for professionals, and not 4chan, and try to act accordingly in the future and exercise some decorum.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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Kim Krause
September 24, 2011 at 7:37 pmactually i have a lot of clients and they all love me…i’ve been doing this since you were in diapers so i think i have earned my right to my opinion and know not everyone will agree. but that’s the point, it’s my opinion and over the years my ideas have all born fruit in reality. you want profanity? go stick your head up your posterior….see i didn’t even have to swear to prove my point!
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Tim Wilson
September 25, 2011 at 1:12 amAn official reminder to please address the topic, and avoid comments about other people posting. There’s plenty to get worked up about without getting personal.
As my parents used to say, “I don’t care who started it. Cut it out.”
(For the record, my sister always started it.)
Tim
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Scott Sheriff
September 25, 2011 at 1:48 am[kim krause] “actually i have a lot of clients and they all love me…i’ve been doing this since you were in diapers so i think i have earned my right to my opinion and know not everyone will agree. but that’s the point, it’s my opinion and over the years my ideas have all born fruit in reality. you want profanity? go stick your head up your posterior….see i didn’t even have to swear to prove my point!”
LOL. That would make you about 80 years old, and most likely nothing but hyperbole. But it would explain the whole get off my lawn mentality.
FYI, if you want to waste bandwidth bragging about your ‘clients’ that love you so much, you might want to at least use proper punctuation, capitalization and grammar if you expect anyone over the age of ten to take you seriously.
BTW, there’s an app for that.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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Chris Harlan
September 26, 2011 at 4:57 pmThis sounds like it might be an App Store database glitch. I’ve seen it happen with the iTunes Store on several occasions. I would email support, and they will most likely fix it for you.
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