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  • Helge Tjelta

    September 12, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Buying a Mac Pro is always risky. There will always be new ones…

    At least now we know there will be a new, but not when and to what price…

    But you need to earn money until then, so if you need a macpro today, you buy it, but not the most expensive one. Earn some cash with it, then jump for the new one…

    You can always wait for stuff, but you have to have some income in the meantime, not ?

    🙂 Helge

    Helge

  • Fabrizio D’agnano

    September 12, 2013 at 8:01 am

    [Travis Roesler] “I hear a lot of mixed reviews.

    Please let me know what you guys think.

    Video editing can be a mixed bag of different flavors. An editor working in a company sharing seats and duties with other professionals and an event videographer or a freelance documentarist can have slightly or less slightly different needs. My experience as a freelance documentarist with FCPX is great. A couple of weeks ago I was working with a friend on an old project involving tape, so I had to switch back to 7 Even though I loved at the time, it felt really old now. I’d never go back. I find the X to be much faster in my real world experience. What helps me most is the magnetic timeline, once I got used to it, the skimming option for timeline or single clip, which is just great, and the media organization that lets me find all the jellyfish images I collected in years among a ton of clips, or the “new age” or “upbeat” audio tracks in my background music archive in a few seconds. I am working with the current version with minor flaws on an upgraded early 2008 Mac Pro. It still does the job and lets me deliver to the TV channel I work for, so yours should be even better. Upgrading to the new MP or just a rMBP will also mean adding to the machine price 1000,00 USD or more for an external TB offering the speed of the internal RAID you can build striping three drives on the old MP, a TB to esata adapter if you still own a lot of archive on esata raids and need to backup and archive stuff, a TB RT HD output card, unless the next version of FCPX offers this via the onboard HDMI port, and possibly other third party adapters like a PCIe to TB one if you use other cards. If you are on a low budget and paid a nice price for the MP and you don’t plan to work on large formats material for a couple of years, I don’t see it as a so bad purchase as others do.

    Fabrizio D’Agnano
    Rome, Italy
    early 2008 MacPro, BM Intensity Pro, early 2008 iMac, 2011 MacBook Pro, FCP7, FCPX, OSX 10.8.3

  • Geoff Addis

    September 12, 2013 at 8:35 am
  • Dennis Radeke

    September 12, 2013 at 10:31 am

    [Travis Roesler] “Windows is garbage.”

    Windows may be garbage in your mind but,

    [Travis Roesler] “I need the processing speed and power.”

    There is no arguing that Windows boxes offer substantially more processing power than Macs do.

    That said, if you want a MacPro than either the Tube or the last gen MacPro would probably be your best bets. I’m assuming a hackintosh is out of the question for you. Make sure you get a lot of RAM for any 64-bit app you use.

  • Bret Williams

    September 12, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    As well, an i7 iMac will outperform the MacPro for FCP X. And the MacPro you bought was released in 2010. It doesn’t have thunderbolt or USB 3 or sandy or ivy bridge tech. The latter (sandy/ivy) is a major component of what X works off of. Plus the GPU. The GPU in a 2011 or 2012 i7 iMac is likely better than what came in the MacPro.

  • Herb Sevush

    September 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “There’s not likely going to be much R&D on the PCIe card side of things from hardware developers as they continue the shift to Thunderbolt.”

    That is a highly questionable statement.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    September 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    [Geoff Addis] “Perhaps this will answer your question …”

    Considering that the entire article is devoted to ingest and organization and not a single sentence to editing, finishing and delivery, I don’t think that article will do for an answer. Unless your an assistant editor.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Bernard Newnham

    September 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    [Travis Roesler] “Windows is garbage.”

    Always interesting to hear that sort of comment. It would be quite good fun to get people who say “x is garbage” about any big and disparate thing – a make of car, a type of food, whatever – and ask them to explain themselves in depth.

    “American cars are rubbish…”
    “Chinese food is foul…”
    (I don’t agree with either of those over-simplifications, by the way)

    In this case, sort of Top Trumps for operating systems. Is he talking about Windows 8 or 95 – is he comparing with OS9 or Mavericks? A complex subject worthy of complex discussion.

    With baited breath (which we aren’t going to hold for too long), we await a full and comprehensive answer from Mr Roesler……

    Bernie

  • Craig Seeman

    September 12, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “[Craig Seeman] “There’s not likely going to be much R&D on the PCIe card side of things from hardware developers as they continue the shift to Thunderbolt.”

    That is a highly questionable statement.”

    But you offer no reasoned refutation.
    I doubt you’ll see much in the way of Mac GPU cards for example.
    It seems RED may be moving to GPU support as an alternative to Rocket.

    Given Apple’s penetration into the Post market, it seriously cuts into margins for many developers of cards. Any card that doesn’t need 8x or 16x will probably have Thunderbolt versions.

    One can look at companies like AJA and Blackmagic and see expansion of Thunderbolt devices.

    The demand on the Windows side isn’t going to change much but Apple dropping out of the PCIe card market has to be a major hit for some hardware developers… unless they develop for Thunderbolt.

  • Alban Egger

    September 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Get an iMac instead of an old MacPro

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