Final Cut Pro user… considering FCP X… do I upgrade?

[Tony West]

[Herb Sevush] “I never use Vimeo or Youtube for posting, my clients “

That’s fine, but I got all kinds of clients with all kinds of needs.

A ton of corporate clients want their videos on youtube.

I did a job for the United States Department of Energy and they wanted their stuff up there. I don’t care where they want it, I will post it on the moon if the price is right.

My point wasn’t about what you personally do, it’s was more to Apple jumping on that trend and streamlining the overall process of editing.

Yes, it’s easy to post video up online these days. Doesn’t change the fact that many corporate clients chose to pay folks to do it for them I while back. Many didn’t have a clue how to do it, and if you are saying most corporate clients knew how to use compressor, I don;t believe that.

[Herb Sevush] “In FCP I export with Quicktime Conversion generally using a very specific set of options. Takes me 30 seconds to set up,”

I don’t think we are talking about the same thing here, It takes more than 30 secs to export from the timeline. Depending on the length and how heavy the graphics are. So you have to wait for that time for it to export and then upload it. What I’m saying is I don’t wait for it. I can just leave to do other things.

And don’t worry about people thinking it’s iMovie brother, that’s been settled.

[Tony West]

[Herb Sevush] “Bill, your making Vimeo Pro sound very attractive. I’ll have to look into it, even without “one click.” Thanks.”

Herb it really is great man.

[Tony West]

Also Herb, for people that work on documentaries and need to apply for grants, you have to fill out the grant online these days and they have a place for you to put a link to your trailer so they can look at it.

Vimeo is great for that. As Bill said, no logos, just your trailer so they can see it.

If there is a better way I’m all ears.

[Bill Davis]

Hey Tony,

Could you drop me an email off-line?

I have an question I’d like to bounce off you.

Use my general email: new video AT fastq (fast plus a lowercase Q) . com)

Thanks.

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[Sandeep Sajeev]

Vimeo Pro is great. The player is fully customisable and you can even choose to not have your videos show up on the Vimeo site if you don’t want to – just have the videos show up in your site with your branding.

One thing that’s great about FCPX’s integration with Vimeo is that the files show up quicker on Vimeo (I don’t know why this is, but I checked this with about 5 videos and the exports from inside X always came out quicker).

The downside to this is that you can’t replace videos from inside X. If you want to keep your stats etc and just upload a newer version, you can choose Replace from the Vimeo site, but that option isn’t in X.

I think it’s about 80 bucks a year for a Pro account. Well worth it IMO. It’s great for client previews as they can view their films on their phones, tablets etc and you don’t have to do anything special for that to happen.

Sandeep.

[Tony West]

I just sent it Bill

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bill Davis] “It’s a link. They click on it. They can watch or download. It’s NO different from sending them a file directly from their perspective. It’s private, direct, optionally passworded if thats important, and transparent to the end user. AND it’s a LOT simpler for me. (that one-click thing)

They don’t even know that it’s Vimeo unless you tell them. “

I am kind of interested in this too.

So what is the link address if it’s not Vimeo.com?

I’m with Herb, we have our own website that we share files with, and it’s much faster as there’s no waiting for the damn file to transcode (again) after the upload.

.MP4 seems to work everywhere, at least no one has complained that they couldn’t see it quite yet.

[Herb Sevush]

Tony –

Thanks for the info about Vimeo, I am starting to play around with it and it might have some advantages for some of the stuff i send out.

As to the whole “one click” thing –

Exporting in the background is the great time saver, and as someone still using Legacy I envy you that ability, but it works with or without the “one click” button. I believe PPro has background rendering through a send to AME command and I think Avid has it as well now.

With Legacy I send “pointer” files to an AME watch folder and AME automatically converts it to what I want; not as fast as true background rendering since I still have to wait for the export, but I’m not creating the .h264 in Legacy and because it’s not a self contained video file it doesn’t take too long. AME can also send the file to an FTP site automatically if that suits your client.

Also, on further exploration it seems that the finder in Mountain Lion has a send to Vimeo button, so any NLE that creates a file on Mountain Lion gets this feature.

In addition Vimeo uses Dropbox so that if you export your file from any NLE to the properly setup Dropbox folder Vimeo will upload it automatically.

All in all I really don’t think that the “one click” publish to Vimeo button is something I would be using to sell X with.

But thanks to both you and Bill for getting me looking at Vimeo Pro.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Paul Neumann]

I’m pretty dependent on my Vimeo Pro account. I set all my videos to private/undiscoverable, don’t allow embedding and don’t allow downloading. Most of the time I don’t allow comments unless it’s a work in progress. I send my client a link to view and then I’ll turn those other features back on temporarily (usually just download is all they need) when they’re ready to take it over.

I especially like the SD versions it creates for you that work really well in PPT and Keynote. One less version/format for me to worry about.

I’ve never uploaded directly from X though. Just too finicky about manual QA on my part. I do have some FTP presets for TV stations that I use through AME, but even that makes me nervous.