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Posted by Craig Loco on November 20, 2006 at 12:24 pmGotcha !
Been a while since the rumors have been going around – any new ones ?
Fingers crossed with Apple’s new aquistion of Final Touch this might find it’s way into the new version
Also a FCP to AE marriage – Media Manager that works etc etc
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Jerry Hofmann
November 20, 2006 at 12:35 pmActually Media manager works pretty well in 5.1.2…
But there’s the old saying around here about speculation of future software: those that are talking don’t know, and those that know, can’t talk…
Jerry
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Walter Biscardi
November 20, 2006 at 1:15 pm[Craig Roy] “Fingers crossed with Apple’s new aquistion of Final Touch this might find it’s way into the new version”
Very doubtful that will be integrated into FCP. Will most likely stay as a standalone app, though they might do something to help make the 3 Way CC a little better and maybe the broadcast safe filter.
The app is too involved to simply integrate it into FCP and at price points of $25k and $5k for the 2k and HD versions, Apple can make quite a bit more money leaving the app as a stand alone.
As a side note, if you’re considering adding it to your arsenal anytime soon, don’t. The application is absolutely unreliable at this point and we’re removing it from all production until further notice. It has completely failed us on our latest run of shows putting our production schedule almost 8 days behind at this point.
As for anything else, just have to wait till NAB in April I suppose. Anything anyone says here is just rumor and really is just a waste of time.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Shane Ross
November 20, 2006 at 3:01 pmYou might be having a bad experience Walter. I have a colorist friend who uses it at least once a week on a variety of projects, has had no problems getting XML to work.
Shane
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Jeremy Garchow
November 20, 2006 at 4:07 pm[Jerry Hofmann] “Actually Media manager works pretty well in 5.1.2..”
I’m with ya there. Freeze frames, speed changes and the like are all seeming to come through very well.
Finally.
Jeremy
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Shane Ross
November 20, 2006 at 4:16 pmYou are getting speed changes to work? How? I haven’t gotten them to work using the media manager. Either a freeze frame or the completely wrong footage.
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Walter Biscardi
November 20, 2006 at 4:31 pm[Shane Ross] “You might be having a bad experience Walter. I have a colorist friend who uses it at least once a week on a variety of projects, has had no problems getting XML to work.”
I’m having 15 bad experiences over three weeks and Silicon Color can’t seem to address the issues since they are no longer around. We’ve tried this on three different systems and XML is simply not working correctly. With Version 2.7 DVCPro HD is not supported correctly. Renders turn into some digital blocky mush that looks like offline quality.
Short XML’s seem to work ok. 22 minute shows are not working at all. Again, it’s gone from production until we see what Apple does with it in April.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jeremy Garchow
November 20, 2006 at 4:32 pmWell, I don’t know how they work, they just do. I media manage and then recapture at uncompressed and they just work. I used to put all speed changes in a separate timeline, or put the original unchanged clip at the end of the timeline and recaptured and then remade the speed changes if they didn’t work. I have to say I have not done that since upgrading to FCP 5.1.2. If your freeze frames are changing to a different frame (is it a few frames off or way the heck off) I would say that you should recalibrate your tc offsets for that particular deck to make sure you are getting frame accurate captures. I don’t make too many freeze frames, but the few that I have and Media managed worked just fine with FCP 5.1.2.
Jeremy
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Chris Borjis
November 20, 2006 at 5:14 pmWalter, wasn’t it working perfectly for you a long time before this though?
I thought you had nothing but high praise for it?
While your reading this I forgot to ask you, how are you feeding your HD Plasma monitor? Did you get an HDMI or DVI Board, or do they make an HD/SD-SDI input?
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Walter Biscardi
November 20, 2006 at 5:24 pm[Borjis] ”
Walter, wasn’t it working perfectly for you a long time before this though?I thought you had nothing but high praise for it?”
It worked perfectly for about 6 months. As a color corrector, it’s flat out incredible. With the latest versions FCP, Quicktime and now the Mac Pro, it’s definitely buggy “beta” right now. Maybe by April Apple will re-release it and clean up all the issues but I would definitely recommend waiting until April if you’re thinking about buying it.
[Borjis] “While your reading this I forgot to ask you, how are you feeding your HD Plasma monitor? Did you get an HDMI or DVI Board, or do they make an HD/SD-SDI input?”
Component off the Kona 3.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Shane Ross
November 20, 2006 at 5:33 pm[walter biscardi] ” With the latest versions FCP, Quicktime and now the Mac Pro, it’s definitely buggy “beta” right now.”
Well that’s it…you upgraded. The company where my guy works, the Final Touch bay most likely isn’t running the latest and greatest…so it still works great. I wouldn’t blame Silicon Color for flat out failing you and calling their product unreliable. It is with what you are using, but it is a very stable product on systems it was designed for. I doubt it has been ported to work on INTEL machines, and is most likely running under Rosetta…not what it was designed for.
I’ll wager if you use it on a non-intel mac it might work. Or have you tried that and going from the intel to the older mac back to intel not work?
Just because a product doesn’t work with the latest and greatest doesn’t make it shoddy.
Shane
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