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  • Final Cut Express to Final Cut Pro problem

    Posted by Matt Hamilton on December 28, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Hey guys I am new here but have a problem that I was wondering if someone could help me out.

    I’ve recently run into a problem with upgrading to Final Cut Pro from Final Cut Express and wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions or ways to fix this problem.

    This past year I have been working on an important project and just completed it this December. During this time I edited the short film together using Final Cut Express
    on my 24 inch iMac. This past week I have upgraded to the new 27 inch i7 iMac and installed Final Cut Studio on there.

    When I opened the FCE project into FCP everything appeared to be working right but then I noticed that the color was way off. This really bothers me since I put a lot of time
    into coloring the project. The main reason I know the color is off is because I also have a Apple 24 inch cinema display that I used with my old 24 inch
    iMac when editing the project. It seems that since the main picture is on the 24 inch external monitor that was previously used then I should have the same color and tone from before.

    As of right now when I have the project opened in Final Cut Pro the color is a lot brighter and washed out. I have checked my filters and made sure everything like color correction was
    turned on and they were. My main question is there a setting or something that I can adjust to make my old FCE project work right and give me the right playback in FCP? I guess I could
    always go back to my old iMac for older projects but I would like to be able to use Final Cut Pro instead with both new and old projects.

    Any advice on how to fix this or adjust any setting would really help. Thanks a lot.

    Tom Wolsky replied 15 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • Tom Wolsky

    December 28, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Same OS as before?

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Matt Hamilton

    December 28, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Yes. Both iMacs are were and currently running the most updated version of Snow Leopard.

  • David Roth weiss

    December 28, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Matt,

    The problem you have here is that you have no “baseline,” i.e. no known starting point that you absolutely know to be a “proper” color display, and so how are you to know which monitor, if any, to trust? The answer is, you can’t trust any of one them, because not one of them is calibrated.

    In order to even begin to color correct video, you have to be absolutely certain what color correct looks like, and that correct color actually does display on your monitor, and that means that a known reference, such as color bars, must display properly, which requires at least some rudimentary form of calibration.

    The most basic form of calibration to color bars is setting proper luminance (i.e. relative brightness), by insuring that the “pluge bar” on the color bars displays properly. See my detailed explanation of calibrating a monitor so that the pluge bar displays properly, which is at the following link here on the Cow: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1113427.

    This will at least get you started… But if you’re going to be broadcasting this video you’ve got a lot more to do and to learn than simply about calibrating the basic luminance.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Tom Wolsky

    December 28, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    In the current OS FCE will display video output differently from FCP, which is designed to more closely approximate a broadcast display, though it is by no means accurate. Your best workflow is to finish the project in whatever application you started, or to leave color correction to the end of the process and do that in the senior application with its more sophisticated and comprehensive tool set.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

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