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Filed/interlace issue with Quicktime export
Posted by Philip James on May 7, 2011 at 10:18 pmI am working with a 1920×1080 25 fps sequence. It all plays and looks fine in Final Cut but whenever I export as Quicktime I getting a terrible double image filed thing with bad interlacing artifacts. I’ve looked carefully at the output settings and they seem to match the sequence data – Apple ProRes 422 25 fps 1920 x 1080. I’m at a bit of a loss as to why this is happening. I’d be grateful for any guidance.
Here is a screen grab of the QT movie export:
Thank you.
Hugo Falsen replied 13 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 25 Replies -
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Philip James
May 8, 2011 at 11:58 amI have now seen that these fault appears on the original footage although in not such an extreme way. I guess it’s a camera fault.
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Bouke Vahl
May 8, 2011 at 12:08 pmno, it is not a fault, it is called ‘interlacing’.
This is what you have shot, and it is normal behaviour.If you want to output for broadcast / dvd / blueray, it is just fine.
Otherwise, de-interlace when transcoding to your output of choice.Bouke
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Chris Tompkins
May 8, 2011 at 12:35 pmYa, ur viewing interlaced footage on a comp. screen.
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Philip James
May 8, 2011 at 1:11 pmThank you Bouke
Is this really just a problem of viewing interlaced footage on a computer monitor? It certainly looks fine on the rather small camera monitor. But as soon as I import it onto my Mac I get the artifacts – whether viewing the MTS files directly in VLC or after import into FCP. I have already tried a de-interlaced export as MPEG 4 but it was only partly successful, reducing the problem but not eliminating it. I’m now trying a Quicktime de-interlaced export from FCP.
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Bouke Vahl
May 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm1) Stop calling this a ‘problem’. It is NOT a problem, it is the way it is intended to be.
2) Of course it looks fine in the camera. Do you think anyone would buy a camera that has a crappy viewfinder?
3) You can set up VLC to display interlaced material as fields, or de-interlace. Two menu items, one to turn it on/off, the second to choose the method.
A very extreme interlaced sample file is here:
https://www.editb.nl/fielddominancechange/
(Get the .mp4)This is one line black, one line white alternating.
This gives you a 50 Hz flicker if it is played one field after another, as it is on a normal TV.
(50 Hz as the file is 25 fps interlaced)
Toy with it, it shows a bit on how the different de-interlacers work.
Eg throwing away one field results in a pure black or white image, depending what field is trashed. Not suitable for SD de-interlacing, but can be good going from HD to small internet video.4) De-interlacing can be done in a huge amount of ways. FCP export uses QT, if you set de-interlacing there, you don’t get the best.
Compressor or any other encoding app. will give you better results.
Always, First de-interlace, then scale. If you first scale you introduce artefacts that cannot be repaired.
Note, the normal ‘ugly’ display of interlaced material does not contain artefacts, as it is NOT wrong!Bouke
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Chris Tompkins
May 8, 2011 at 2:21 pmYou Shot HD Interlaced.
Edit HD Interlaced.
Export “Current Settings”Take that file into a compression program and create your deliverable such as Web, DVD, iPhone, whatever.
This is where you deinterlace in the process, when you are compressing to the deliverable.
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Philip James
May 8, 2011 at 2:39 pmThank you for your help Bouke and Chris. I guess I was figuring that this wasn’t a straightforward interlacing issue because I wasn’t getting good results when de-interlacing on export from FCP – the problem did not go away. Now I’m going to play with this after exporting and see how I can improve things.
All the best
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Philip James
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Chris Tompkins
May 8, 2011 at 4:23 pmDon’t “de-interlace” when exporting from FCP.
Export “Current Settings”
See previous post.
Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC
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