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  • fields being labeled wrong on import

    Posted by Josh Weiss on June 20, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    I have source footage that is being rendered from after effects with fields off (progressive). Whenever myself or any of my colleagues bring in the footage final cut sees the footage as lower field first. This is creating issues when titles, etc, are being placed on layers above the footage. Our sequences are set to 8 bit uncompressed and the field order is set to none as we are working with progressive renders. Does anyone have any idea why final cut is seeing this incorrectly and how to fix it.

    Jeremy Garchow replied 16 years, 10 months ago 9 Members · 26 Replies
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  • Ben Insler

    June 20, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    Select all the incorrect clips in your browser, then right click in the Field Dominance field of one of the selected clips and select the correct setting from the pop-up menu. If you have broken master/affiliate connections for clips in the timeline, you will have to do this through the item properties window for each clip in the timeline (or drag all your master clips in the timeline back to the browser first).

    Hope that helps,

    Ben

  • Josh Weiss

    June 20, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Thanks for the tip, but what I really want to do is have final cut import the clips correctly in the first place. Is there any way to set this, or does anyone know why its happening in the first place.

    We are rendering from PCs with the AJA Kona 2vuy setting, however I have the same results rendering from a mac with the apple 8 bit uncompressed settings.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 20, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    I don’t see how this could be a problem as it’s the timeline and the footage (your AE imports) that determine how the footage is rendered and played. What kind of problems are you seeing?

  • Josh Weiss

    June 21, 2007 at 12:52 am

    Yes, so when the footage is being interpreted wrong it causes problems. Mainly when I have other layers or titles above my incorrectly interpreted footage is when the problem occurs. Essentially the video just gets crappy looking in these areas. Everything is rendered if it needs to be and quality settings do not change this (real time settings). Once I change the footage to none, and rerender everything looks fine. Its the lower fields that is causing the problem. (even though the sequence is none and the clip is not rendered with fields).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 21, 2007 at 1:07 am

    I tried what you are experiencing and everything looks fine. There’ s no change in how the footage plays whether it’s interpreted correctly or not, timeline interlaced or not. Are you sure there’s nothing else going on and your have your sequence > render menus with the full option checked and then you render?

    Jeremy

  • Josh Weiss

    June 21, 2007 at 1:15 am

    Well, I should mention that this problem is new to FCP 6. In 5.1 we did have clips being interpreted wrong, but didn’t seem to show this display problem.

    We did check our render settings and it wasn’t related to that. Also, I would really like to know why the clips aren’t being imported correctly anyway. There is no reason a progressive clip should be seen as lower field first.

  • Michael Gissing

    June 21, 2007 at 1:35 am

    Were the files imported in 5.1.4 or in 6? I am wondering if the field label error happened in converting or Media Managing your project file to 6.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 21, 2007 at 1:41 am

    Got ya, I am using FCP 5.1.4 and don’t see these problems. Do you have a shift fields filter on the footage? There’s been reports of this happening with footage that was started in FCP5 and updated to 6.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 21, 2007 at 1:50 am

    [JeremyG] “Got ya, I am using FCP 5.1.4 and don’t see these problems”

    i should be clear, the field order is still interpreted wrong in FCP 5.1.4, but there’s no penalty in rendering or otherwise.

  • Josh Weiss

    June 21, 2007 at 2:40 am

    The same happens for footage that was imported in 5.1 and footage imported in 6. As Jeremy said, no consequence in 5.1 and there is a consequence in 6. There are no filters on these clips.

    Does anyone else have any ideas. And why should we all just settle for FCP importing our clips incorrectly, this is basic stuff!

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