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Nick Toth
December 17, 2011 at 9:11 pmNo doubt. I’ve gotten a lot of good info from the LAFCPUG website for example.
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David Roth weiss
December 17, 2011 at 9:12 pm[Christian Schumacher] “They are comprised of a swarm of “potential clients” now looking for FCPX editors fiercely across the web.
:-)”Isn’t that exciting! I can’t wait until the same clients start calling me to fix all of those projects and finish them properly.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Scott Cumbo
December 19, 2011 at 4:15 am[David Roth Weiss] “[Nick Toth] “There are editors outside of LA after all. :)”
Of course there are. I>
sure their are some editors in NYC… haha, couldn’t resist.
But really, The talent has nothing to do with the app. I’m sure FCPX is great, but i won’t know until a client instist on using it.
And when they do I’ll figure it out on the fly , same way I learned FCP7 and most every app i know.Scott Cumbo
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Scott Sheriff
December 21, 2011 at 7:42 am[Bill Davis] “No Walter, it does’t need anything remotely like a “free pass” – because it’s a competent general purpose editing program right now.”
This must be some new usage of the term “general purpose” that I wasn’t previously aware of. By your own admission “…some of which it does poorly or not at all (multi-cam, ProTools round tripping, integration with high end color timing, etc.)“, it doesn’t sound all that “general purpose” to me. Especially when X is compared to it’s predecessor, or contemporaries. Everyone that gushes on and on about X and how great/fast/hela-kewl it is always has some specific niche workflow. OK, fine. So in some specific situations, for some specific workflows, it seems faster for some people.
When you can use X as a stand alone NLE (and not use X as a 300 dollar plugin for another NLE) and take any project that comes in the door, not just some down and dirty, quick turn around DSLR stuff, then maybe you can claim X is a general purpose editing program.
Until then…not so much.On the argument that a guy like Elton John doesn’t need a Steinway…well, it seems ludicrous. A typical silly straw man argument. Maybe the real question is not does he need a Steinway, but as a professional would he prefer to use a Steinway? I’m guessing he would.
A few people got some recognition using a Fisher-Price PXL 2000 KiddieCorder in a few art movies and band videos, does that mean everyone should scrap their Red/Alexa/Genesis cameras?
But if you want to stick with straw man scenarios, I doubt Kyle Bush, or Sebastian Vettel would do very well against any one of us in a race if they were stuck in a Yugo, while we were allowed a Cup or F1 car. I might even have a fighting chance against Tiger Woods if the only club he was allowed to use was a pitching wedge.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
Where were you on 6/21?
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David Roth weiss
December 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm[Scott Sheriff] ” I might even have a fighting chance against Tiger Woods if the only club he was allowed to use was a pitching wedge.”
No you wouldn’t… 🙂
But everything else you wrote in right on the money.
[Scott Sheriff] “When you can use X as a stand alone NLE (and not use X as a 300 dollar plugin for another NLE) and take any project that comes in the door, not just some down and dirty, quick turn around DSLR stuff, then maybe you can claim X is a general purpose editing program.
Until then…not so much.”Good point!
[Scott Sheriff] “A few people got some recognition using a Fisher-Price PXL 2000 KiddieCorder in a few art movies and band videos, does that mean everyone should scrap their Red/Alexa/Genesis cameras?”
Careful, Bill might start advocating the use of KiddieCorders and we’ll have to wade through lengthy diatribes extolling their agility too.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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