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  • Posted by Jason Jenkins on December 16, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    True Story:

    Potential Client (via Email): I found you on Creative Cow. Can you do some editing for me? I do rough cuts in iMovie and I need someone to polish them up.

    Me: Sure! I use FCPX and I can import your iMovie project directly.

    Client: That’s great! I spent days communicating with another editor, only to find out he edits on Avid and can’t do anything with my iMovie projects.

    Edit happens. I get paid quickly. Everybody is happy. (Except the Avid editor.)

    Jason Jenkins
    Flowmotion Media
    Video production… with style!

    Check out my Mormon.org profile.

    David Roth weiss replied 14 years, 4 months ago 20 Members · 55 Replies
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  • Christian Schumacher

    December 16, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I have a tricky question:

    How many iMovie gigs one has to score in order to match a single Avid one?

  • Brian Mulligan

    December 16, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    I am sure the Avid Editor is happy he/she didn’t have to deal with the iMovie project. So everybody IS a winner.

    Brian Mulligan
    Senior Editor – Autodesk Smoke
    WTHR-TV Indianapolis,IN, USA
    Twitter: @bkmeditor

  • Tony West

    December 16, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    I think the more likely future are X jobs.

    A job started on X, but they want that finished by an experienced editor that knows X maybe better than them.

    (Better at Motion and using the sound files than them)

  • Bill Davis

    December 16, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Probably an infinite number since we all know that there isn’t a single Avid editor on the planet working on no/low budget projects like resume movies and “foot in the door” projects.

    In fact registered ownership of the “proper” software alone is what causes clients to show up with big budget gigs.

    Didn’t you know that?

    (grin)

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Jason Jenkins

    December 16, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    [Christian Schumacher] “How many iMovie gigs one has to score in order to match a single Avid one?”

    I have no idea. Define “Avid gig”?

    Jason Jenkins
    Flowmotion Media
    Video production… with style!

    Check out my Mormon.org profile.

  • Kevin Patrick

    December 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    [Jason Jenkins] “! I spent days communicating with another editor, only to find out he edits on Avid and can’t do anything with my iMovie projects.”

    I bet the Avid editor is this person’s spouse.

    This person talked to their spouse for days only to find out he can’t do anything with my iMovie projects.

  • Jason Jenkins

    December 16, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    [Kevin Patrick] “I bet the Avid editor is this person’s spouse.

    This person talked to their spouse for days only to find out he can’t do anything with my iMovie projects.”

    Totally lost me here…

    Jason Jenkins
    Flowmotion Media
    Video production… with style!

    Check out my Mormon.org profile.

  • Joseph Owens

    December 16, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Define AVID gig?

    “Monetized”?

    jPo

    You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

  • Walter Soyka

    December 16, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    [Bill Davis] “In fact registered ownership of the “proper” software alone is what causes clients to show up with big budget gigs. Didn’t you know that? (grin)”

    Owning the “proper” software isn’t sufficient for getting the big budget gigs, but it’s usually necessary. It took FCP Classic quite a long time to earn clients’ trust, and from what I’m seeing, FCPX just isn’t there right now.

    I don’t mean to say one can’t use FCPX, or that it won’t ever get there, but really… would everyone using FCPX for “big budget gigs” today please raise their hands?

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Neil Patience

    December 16, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Regardless of anything trumping anything else,

    What I would like to know is what did the client manage to talk to the editor about, not for a few minutes or a few hours but “days communicating” and yet somehow the words “I cut something on iMovie can you help me” didnt come up in the conversation once – for several days ?

    Based on what you have said, in my head this scenario goes:

    Client:
    Hi I am looking for an editor to help me with a project that I am working on, I have done some rough cuts but need some finishing – could you possibly help me ?

    Editor:
    Sure, love to help – what format did you shoot on and what did you use to do your rough cuts ?

    Client: Oh I shot on DV, HDV, DSLR (whatever) and I have done some rough edits on iMovie but I am looking for someone finish and polish them for me.

    Editor: I only work on Avid I am afraid, I could suggest some ways of getting your work into my system but I wont be able to read your project files directly.

    Seriously, they communicated for days without this ever coming up once – the editor never asked and the client never mentioned formats, editing systems, project files, sequences – what the hell were they talking about ?

    best wishes
    Neil
    http://www.patience.tv

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