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  • Guðmundur Erlingsson

    June 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Speaking of hardware, wouldn’t a nicely laid out Hackintosh with separate partitions for MacOS, Windows 7 (and even Linux) solve the that particular problem? Or could that be disastrous at some point?

  • Jeff Schroeder

    June 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Wow, audio automagically moves with the video, sample accurate resolution for aligning audio, drag tansitions and fades, right-click selecting fade velocity. The L&J cut section would have been really cool if this was 1996. I can’t believe this impresses them so much.

    This is hilarious!

    Jeff

    http://www.narrowroadmedia.com

  • John Rofrano

    June 30, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    [mike calla] “If i could get a clear answer “Yes, nVidia, HD-Out has no colour space issues” That’d be great!”

    I’m using an NVIDIA Quadro 4000 with two ASUS ProArt PA246Q monitors that are calibrated with a Spyder 3 Elite and I don’t have any color space issues with HD. I set the Vegas Secondary Display to use the Syper 3 profiles and also tell Vegas to use Studio RGB (16 – 235) and everything comes out color accurate. That is why Sony added the Secondary Display option. You have to make sure you calibrate your monitors but there are no color space issues.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Rofrano

    June 30, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    [Guðmundur Erlingsson] “Speaking of hardware, wouldn’t a nicely laid out Hackintosh with separate partitions for MacOS, Windows 7 (and even Linux) solve the that particular problem? Or could that be disastrous at some point?”

    I thought that there were issues with applying updates with a Hackintosh. If not, that would be a good solution.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Mike Calla

    July 1, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Awesome, thanks John!

    two quick ?s to clarify:

    1. Would this apply to windows secondary display via a graphics card HDMI / Component out to an HDTV monitor as well?

    2. Is the dependent on the fact that you have a “Quadro” card?

    Thanks again!

  • No Vegas

    July 1, 2011 at 8:48 am

    In order to do that they need to fix the 64 bit issues that are creeping up. At least with me.

    I have been an editor for 19 years and cut on just about everything.
    I was very happy with Sony Vegas since Version 5 for speed and good results.

    I recently switched to Sony Vegas Pro 10d 64 bit and Windows 7 Professional 64 bit to take advantage of the additional RAM and faster render times. However, Sony Vegas Pro 10d 64 bit ALWAYS locks and stops responding when working on the timeline. If I wait 5 minutes it comes back only to do it again.

    I have NEVER had this issue with my Windows XP Pro SP3 32 Bit Version. All the same exact hardware. XP runs smooth as butter and no issues.

    I’m running all new Intel I-5 CPU, Nvidia GTX560 GPU, 8GB of RipJaws Ram, 1TB System Drive, 1TB G-RAID Video capture drive with firewire 800, and 4 additional drives for media and temp files.

    It all runs PERFECT under XP. But I can’t edit longer than 1 minute under Windows 7 64.

    And yes, it’s all a full clean install with everything updated and patched. No idea what it is. But the amount of money I spent building this system I could have gotten into a MAC with FCP. Or even an entry level AVID.

    Any ideas?

  • Thomas Roberts

    July 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm
  • Jeff Schroeder

    July 1, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Thomas,

    Is this some kind of elaborate hoax? I find it very hard to believe that FCP survived until now without this basic functionality. This, in combination with what was revealed in the video describes an NLE that, prior to this release, was not very intuitive or productive. How then could FCP editors be in such demand?

    Maybe Sony Creative Software needs to fire a few programmers and steal away some of Apples marketing gurus.

    Vegas Pro is a better tool than FCPX.

    Jeff

    http://www.narrowroadmedia.com

  • John Rofrano

    July 2, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    [Jeff Schroeder] “Is this some kind of elaborate hoax? I find it very hard to believe that FCP survived until now without this basic functionality.”

    It’s not that the functionality wasn’t there… it’s that it was probably locked up in menus and dialog boxes and took three steps to do a simple task which is the problem with Avid and Premiere and FCP. They took this outdated “razor blade” concept of editing tape to the computer instead of introducing a new faster workflow that was better adapted for the computer like Vegas did.

    If the Avid/Premiere/FCP developers were designing a word processor, the computer would ring a bell when you reach the 72nd character of a line and you’d have to press return before character 80! (i.e., making a computer act like a typewriter is a very bad idea but that’s essentially what they did with video editing)

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Rick Wise

    July 2, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    John, great analogy. The mystery remains: why oh why did FCP become ubiquitous and Vegas lives to this day in the margins?

    I am guessing the answer lies with marketing, good on the part of Apple and lousy on the part of Sony. It’s similar to the triumph of VHS over beta. Betas was way better but lost the market to VHS.

    It would be wonderful for we who use Vegas if Sony capitalized on the FCP mess, as Adobe is doing. (Adobe is offering 50% off Premium for both FCP and Avid Media Composer users.) But expecting Sony to seize this marketing advantage must be akin to waiting for pigs to fly. There are also platform issues (FCP entirely on Macs, though on my MacBook Pro I run Vegas in Bootcamp, no problemo.)

    Rick Wise
    director of photography
    San Francisco Bay Area
    part-time instructor lighting/camera
    Academy of Art University/Film and Video (grad school)
    https://www.RickWiseDP.com

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