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FCPX or R15?
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[Tony West] “I see. You go to your URSA and primes when you want to go to the next level of quality that your phone can’t handle as well.”
Wait… so you’re actually equating things such as Bokeh and/or DOF with quality, with complete disregard for content?! Wow. Because no, that’s certainly not what I was saying, sorry.
It’s never been about a blanket better/worse for anyone, even though that’s clearly what some are trying very hard to spin it to be, to have yet another chance to show how much their superior demands separate them from the riffraff. It’s about an objective when, if and why… and why not. But obviously some feel their “pro-ness” horribly threatened by the mere notion that someone could actually be doing a perfectly good if not great job and making more money than them with such “paltry” tools (not just cameras of course).
But yeah, sorry… they are.
So I’ll also just take that as a “yes” as far as the “Not enough? Unprofessional?” is concerned.
I’m sure that everyone and Bentley, too, were just horrified and furious over the amateurish low-bokeh films they’ve gotten and wish they had sent the filmmakers home quickly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyYhM0XIIwU
But thank you. I’d say you’ve helped summarize this thread perfectly.
– RK
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[Steve Connor] “Did you know the COW has an “ignore” feature?”
Where?
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[Herb Sevush] “Where?”
Click on the name or portrait and then there’s the ignore button under the portrait on the user page.
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No need to remind him. Already beat him to it long ago. ????
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[Robin S. Kurz] ” But obviously some feel their “pro-ness” horribly threatened by the mere notion that someone could actually be doing a perfectly good if not great job and making more money than them with such “paltry” tools (not just cameras of course). “
I don’t doubt you are doing a great job with your phone Robin. I don’t doubt that people can sneak phone video passed clients without them knowing it. I don’t know if you make more money than me or not, I don’t really know you. I wouldn’t bet mad if you made more, I’ve accomplshised everything I wanted to in this field.
I was just curious how you were pulling it off on certain types of jobs. The thing is, I think this forum almost needs to be broken down to different job categories. I’m surprised when I read things on here just how different needs are a certain jobs. It’s hard to believe sometimes. I’d rather compare notes with people who are doing the same jobs I’m doing.
When I first posted, my point was that I don’t believe clients want to pay the same rate for a phone as they do for a higher quality camera if they saw you using it on the job.
Do you say to the owner of the company on the set that’s writing the check “Hey, this is gonna look almost as good as a more expensive camera. Trust me. Btw, I expect the same rate”
I didn’t believe that wold play well, and I still don’t.
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[Tony West] “I think this forum almost needs to be broken down to different job categories. I’m surprised when I read things on here just how different needs are a certain jobs. It’s hard to believe sometimes. I’d rather compare notes with people who are doing the same jobs I’m doing.”
I think that’s a great idea and I have the same reaction to some of the posts here.
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[Tony West] “You aren’t making the argument that your phone looks “better” than your C100 it’s just that it looks pretty good and you can get away with it and not carry as much stuff.”
It looks damn good actually, but you are right. This video was for online marketing and the iPhone 4k is perfectly ok for that. Basically a Vimeo link on emails to select persons. Hell, the C100 might have been overkill! But horses for courses.
Sometimes I get the feeling that people in our business try to make things as complex and hard as they can for no apparent gain or reason…mho
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[Neil Sadwelkar] “At the price of Avid DS, eQ/iQ, Smoke, Nuke Studio, one has to be hugely committed financially, to the concept. Their ongoing costs were/are high too – maintenance/upgrade taxes.”
I would venture to day that if BMD was trying to introduce Resolve at that time in history, they could not have done a free software either. The money is not made on the software, rather on the hardware you need to put around it.
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[greg janza] “I think that’s a great idea and I have the same reaction to some of the posts here.
“Yeah, but the REASON this specific forum has the traffic that it does, arose from the conflict in the early days of FCP X that was hashed out here.
Argument over concepts is the SOUL of this forum.
If this forum was simply users agreeing that the way professionals have traditionally approached their equipment and production processes is fine and should just keep on keeping on – the whole forum would be just another website among many.
We tend to remain relevant BECAUSE we challenge the accepted way of doing things.
That’s the fun.
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[Scott Witthaus] “I would venture to day that if BMD was trying to introduce Resolve at that time in history, they could not have done a free software either.”
I’m not so sure about that. Free maybe not, but cheap, yes. Assuming, of course, the current status of the company and the lower cost of entry that they have with these tools through their strategic acquisitions. Remember that it was Digital Voodoo’s cheap SDI cards (Grant was originally a partner there before BMD) that ushered FCP 1 into the professional market.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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