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FCPX or Not — mini-meetup at NAB?
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You will be grandfathered in.
Tim
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[David Roth Weiss] “And, for those wondering what constitutes a “real” FCP user in my opinion, I mean those who use and demand non-magnetic timelines, a Viewer and a Canvas, and XML (not FCPXML). 🙂
Okay, let the flaming begin… 🙂
“No flaming at all – just observation.
I guess since you’re posting here under both your personal name and your corporate affiliation, means that neither you nor ProMax cares about those of us who don’t directly share your views.
Fair enough.
But it strikes me that your company founder, the late (and much missed) Charles McConathy never expressed these kinds of insular and exclusionary views – at least not to me in our NAB chats when I had the privilege of sitting down with him to shared a few after hours drinks and learn from his almost inexhaustible knowledge of hard drive sub-systems.
I always found him to represent the polar opposite of that kind of thinking – welcoming even small time guys like me into the fold and shipping ProMax systems anywhere and to anyone who needed them (including me in the Wilds of Arizona) – rather than separating us into “worthy” and “clearly not-worthy” customer groups.
But then times move on, and companies obviously come to reflect the people who represent them in each new era.
Such is life.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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My opinions are just mine, and no one else’s. Nor do they constitute or represent the opinions and/or beliefs of the company I work for, or those of Creative Cow.
Furthermore, the vast number of people around the world whom I have assisted and advised throughout the years on Creative Cow are testament to the fact that I bring much more to the table than just my opinions.
And finally, by stranding its highest level pro apps customers by abandoning FCS, and now possibly its MacPro line of professional workstations, Apple has created havoc throughout the industry I love for the majority of the colleagues and professionals I have supported throughout the years. And, while I do not speak for Charles or ProMAX in this regard, I’m certain he too preferred the Apple run by hippies in their garage, rather than the Apple of today, driven by corporate greed and animosity to the cares and needs of many of its best and most supportive longtime customers and facilities, who built their hopes, dreams, and aspirations on FCS and the Mac platform.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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“hopes dreams and aspirations?” and now the nasty corporation has taken those away, let’s put our faith in businesses that really care for us artists like HP perhaps, who nearly dropped their PC line entirely or Avid who spent so many years sucking money out of facilities with their grossly inflated prices.
Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
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[Bill Davis] “I guess since you’re posting here under both your personal name and [love the walloping emphasis there by the way] your corporate affiliation, means that neither you nor ProMax cares about those of us who don’t directly share your views.
Fair enough.
But it strikes me that your company founder, the late (and much missed) Charles McConathy never expressed these kinds of insular and exclusionary views – “
…and well, the rampant personal invective just keeps right on going after that.
come on bill – would you take it easy? this was that rare unicorn of a matey joshing thread on this forum – david was surely well within team bounds in some gentle broad xml etc jibing no?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
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[Steve Connor] “I’m devastated – I’m clearly not a “real” FCP user!”
You were Steve, but but you’ve abandoned ship and taken-up with the “unreal” impostor to the throne. 🙁
It doesn’t make you any less of an editor by any stroke of the imagination. In fact, I admire you’re sticktuitiveness (if that’s a word).
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Apple has created havoc throughout the industry I love for the majority of the colleagues and professionals I have supported throughout the years”
Please. I don’t know what your day is like, but mine is singularly “havoc free.” In fact I don’t know a single editor anywhere who expresses the view that the current editing world is in “havoc” except you.
It’s editing software, David. Not religion.
If what X actually is – in its new incarnation – doesn’t work for you, leave it for a while. If and when it’s new path coincides with what you might need in the future, come back.
David, Apple didn’t go out to hurt YOU any more than they went out to make ME happy. We’re neither of us particularly important in the great scheme of things.
This squabble is also getting old and tiring. It contributes nothing to anyones understanding of the reality of the new software or it’s possibilities.
That’s the real problem here. I see your original post here as largely unsubstantiated broad opinion.
If, as you contend, there’s “havoc” surrounding this. Tell us about it. Tell us what companies are at risk of going under because X supplanted Legacy. Why? Why wouldn’t anything else work for them.
I don’t stand against differing opinions. I enjoy them. I stand against broad assertions without foundation. So provide some. Then we can talk about them.
Impersonally and logically. You seem to “hate” magnetism. OK. How much do you use it? What makes you so angry about it. Why can’t you just work in “position” mode and avoid it. Does it NEVER work for you under ANY circumstances? Editors here would probably find that both revealing and interesting.
I’ve noted that for me, it was “odd” for about a week of solid use – then it became nothing more or less than “normal.” I stopped fighting it – in fact I largely stopped even thinking about it kinda like a properly learned keyboard shortcut. Now for me it’s simply how things work.
I’m not a particularly gifted editor. Why does it work for me and not for you? Wouldn’t that be a more productive discussion than just popping up and crying “havoc!” in order to let slip the dogs of NLE war? (couldn’t resist, sorry. )
And I’m curious as to why you’re still ranting against it. (Didn’t someone here say that some new version of Premier has some form of “magnetism” inside it?) if magnetism is ipso-facto useless – or just useless in X? And if so, why?
These are more interesting discussions, I believe, than the mindless “it’s crap because I allege so” rants.
On either side.
As a gesture of truce, If you’re coming to the meet-up in NAB, I’m hereby volunteering to stand your first round at the Fortuna – in the hopes that it will let us shake hands and allow you to simply settle down and stop seeing me – and the others who enjoy working with FCP-X – as some kind of “evil minions” that must be fought at all costs.
We’re all just editors who are discussing our tools. Nothing more or less.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Steve Connor] “”hopes dreams and aspirations?” and now the nasty corporation has taken those away, let’s put our faith in businesses that really care for us artists like HP perhaps, who nearly dropped their PC line entirely or Avid who spent so many years sucking money out of facilities with their grossly inflated prices.”
Holy shnikeys, editing has become a dark art.
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“….gesture of truce….”
An overture to make up?
I hereby promise one (1) real pony to anyone who can provide a picture of these two kissing. Whatever happens in Vegas….could be worth a real pony to you.
I’m just saying.
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[Tim Wilson] “”….gesture of truce….”
An overture to make up?
I hereby promise one (1) real pony to anyone who can provide a picture of these two kissing. Whatever happens in Vegas….could be worth a real pony to you.
I’m just saying.”
Tim, you’re getting yourself in serious trouble here.
You’re probably not aware that I live on a horse property in Scottsdale and that my studio is in a converted hay barn…?
Heck, I’d probably kiss not just just David, but David, Herb, and and Andreas for half the hammer price of a decent pony.
So stop tempting me – vegas is nothing if not expensive – and as a sole proprietor, I have to pay my own way every damn year!
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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