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FCPX or Not — mini-meetup at NAB?
Charles Wren replied 14 years, 1 month ago 21 Members · 54 Replies
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Chris Harlan
April 9, 2012 at 7:48 am[Bill Davis] “Look,
I’ve been posting here practically since this part of the Cow was introduced. Everyone knows my positions and the kind of arguments I make. They know I tend to be kinda long winded when I’m putting down my thoughts. But so what?
I was dead serious about this. If someone feels I’m so off base – or my arguments makes them feel uncomfortable, or they just feel that my observations and arguments aren’t worth their time – its not like each and every one of my posts don’t come per-billboarded with my name. So what’s the big deal?
Just don’t open them. Problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to read them.
But if the best you can come up with in terms of criticism is that they’re “too long” -wow.
Maybe you can see it this way. Every time you don’t read a post of mine, your saving yourself more time than you would by not reading someone else’s posts! It’s a bigger win for you that way!
That help?
“Its not about “long-winded,” Bill. Its about passive-aggresive threats–more aggressive than passive– regarding David’s employer. And, if you can’t see that, you need to re-read the post in question. You don’t get to make those kind of assertions and then pretend you don’t know what other people are talking about.
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 9, 2012 at 12:21 pmExactly right.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Bill Davis
April 10, 2012 at 2:31 amNo, exactly wrong.
The “aggression” such as is was was nearly exclusively contained in David’s initial post, IMO.
[David Roth Weiss] “And, for those wondering what constitutes a “real” FCP user in my opinion, I mean those who use and demand non-magnetic timelines, a Viewer and a Canvas, and XML (not FCPXML). 🙂
Okay, let the flaming begin… 🙂
“You might agree with his view. But that don’t mean it wasn’t an aggressive attack on anyone who’s expressed appreciation for the list of things he called out by name.
And I’m as firmly in that group as anyone who’s been reading here for long will certainly agree.
Maybe you don’t read that as “aggressive. I do.
I’m not quite sure how he justifies that view when the fact of the matter is that he’s bucketing all “real” FCP users as those who base their practice on discontinued software – but his language is crystal clear.
What you’ve called my “passive-aggressive” response started with the words:
No flaming at all – just observation.
Then I pointed out that my experience with ProMax years ago was one of a company that welcomed all users, no matter their experience level and their NLE preferences, I think that was on-point.
Maybe something that I wrote could be taken as “passive aggressive” if read with a particular tone or slant, but it certainly was not meant that way.
I was once again using a personal anecdote to make a point. I”v been slammed for using analogy.
Oh gosh.
Am I missing the larger point here.
Is there a movement afloat to deny me the use of ANY writing device that starts with the letter A?
I got hammered for analogy.
Now I’m taken to task for aggression (albeit in the passive variety)
Dammit, that totally blows my master plan for a massive post rife with alliteration.
The last thing I want is to continue to make Chris and Aindreas even snippier by pure accident.
; )
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Charles Wren
April 15, 2012 at 10:25 pmWhen did this stop being about making videos? telling stories and so forth…
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