FCPX Is Now A Universal Logging and Organizing Tool For Any NLE

[David Lawrence]

[Shane Ross] “You presume that all NLE’s have XML support. Avid does not.”

[Shane Ross] “And that would be darn few:

Premiere Pro
Resolve (but it isn’t an NLE…yet)”

Thank you Shane.

That’s actually an important point I’d like everyone to remember when we talk about subscription-only software.

Over in the Adobe CC Or Not forum, a lot of people seem to think that Adobe’s “pay rent forever or we cut off access to your projects” business model isn’t a problem, because you can always export an XML and move to another NLE.

I think you took that argument off the table.

I’m still excited about this workflow, though. 😉

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[Jeremy Garchow]

What happens with overlapping keywords, is a duplicate clip made?

I guess I could test it myself, but what’s the fun in that?

[David Lawrence]

[Jeremy Garchow] “What happens with overlapping keywords, is a duplicate clip made?

I guess I could test it myself, but what’s the fun in that?”

Just tested. Yep, you get a subclip for the marked range of every keyword, i.e. if I keyword a small range inside a larger keyword range, you get a separate keyword bin with the smaller range as a subclip. This is what I would expect and it works fine for my purposes.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Walter Soyka] “I’m not saying I thought the debate was over, just that I didn’t realize we were still questioning each others’ sanity anymore. I thought was reserved for discussions of subscription software!”

I too am honestly astounded at the level of, I dunno, vitriol, irrational anger… whatever… that still comes up regarding FCP X. If you don’t like it, don’t f-ing use it. But to come here day after day and bleat about how it’s just so awful, I don’t see how anyone can use it, audio editing is awful blah di blah di blah. The rational POV’s in this thread, which was kind of a good one, have once again been drowned out by the whining. There are a zillion NLE’s… use another one. Is it really that hard?

I use it. I cut things with piles of audio, dialog cheats, crazy music edits, sound design, multi-layer composites with generators, effects. No problem at all. Could I do it in other NLE’s? Yep. I have every one of those that keep getting bandied about here, and I know how to, and sometimes do use them all. Well, except Lightworks… probably not gonna go too deep on that one. That’s a preference though, you won’t hear me whining about how it sucks and question the sanity of anyone who does use it.

Sorry for the rant, but it’s really ridiculous, and I had a long day… some of which I had to waste helping other editors troubleshoot FCP 7 and Pr. If you don’t like X, fine. But to say the software can’t do “real” work is complete and utter horsecrap. Move on. Please.

And David… it is a pretty cool use of fcpxml huh? I’d bet there’s more to come. And you really ought try to cut in X again since you’ll be spending some time in it now. 🙂 It’s pretty damn awesome.

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[Andy Neil]

[Charlie Austin] “If you don’t like X, fine. But to say the software can’t do “real” work is complete and utter horsecrap. Move on. Please.”

Thank you. I would have responded something similar, but I was too busy doing a complex project in FCPX to take the time.

Andy

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[Charlie Austin]

[Andy Neil] “I would have responded something similar, but I was too busy doing a complex project in FCPX to take the time.”

lol. As I said, long day, complex project, easy and fun. Exhausting, but easy and fun. I read and/or see pix of some of the stuff people seem to be unable to do in X, and the first thought I have is a 3 word phrase. The first two are “What” and “The”. Sometimes followed by “are you talking about?!?!” 😉

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[Darren Roark]

It’s like when bacon was called the gateway drug that stopped people from being vegetarians..

[David Lawrence]

[Charlie Austin] “And David… it is a pretty cool use of fcpxml huh? I’d bet there’s more to come. And you really ought try to cut in X again since you’ll be spending some time in it now. 🙂 It’s pretty damn awesome.”

Way cool, Charlie. I look forward to seeing how it evolves. 🙂

I’ll probably do some tinkering and quick assemblies but for me, that timeline still needs work.

I don’t even care about tracks. I’d settle for being able to select, copy, and overwrite paste both audio and video directly in the primary. I do this all the time when cutting dialogue and interviews. It’s one of the simplest possible things an NLE can do, right? I mean really… there’s no excuse for any workarounds. As soon as paste with audio overwrite becomes possible, I’ll be much more interested in cutting in X.

Until then, it’s still cool to be able to use it, especially on this particular project!

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[Andy Neil]

[David Lawrence] “It’s one of the simplest possible things an NLE can do, right? I mean really… there’s no excuse for any workarounds.”

This is one of those statements that’s so extremely loaded. There are any number of things that anyone can point to and say, “certainly any NLE should be able to do that!” with the implication being that if it can’t, it doesn’t measure up. Just today, I was annoyed that I had to render a ramping speed effect in Avid to see if it matched the music I was cutting to. Surely any NLE worth it’s salt could do this without rendering?

BTW, how is SHIFT+F and D more of a workaround than CMD+C / CMD+V? I can matchframe/overwrite just as fast as I can copy/paste.

Andy

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[David Lawrence]

[Andy Neil] “BTW, how is SHIFT+F and D more of a workaround than CMD+C / CMD+V? I can matchframe/overwrite just as fast as I can copy/paste.”

Glad it works for you Andy, I’m just not interested. I guess 30-years of muscle memory is just too much to break 😉

I’m not talking about anything fancy. I’m talking about copying and pasting from the simplest video clip with one channel of mono audio directly on the timeline without bouncing back and forth to the browser.

Overwrite paste is something even the simplest text editor does with ease. There’s simply no reason why this can’t be an option in FCPX as well. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it! 🙂

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