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FCPX Is Now A Universal Logging and Organizing Tool For Any NLE
Craig Alan replied 11 years, 10 months ago 21 Members · 87 Replies
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Charlie Austin
June 13, 2014 at 6:37 am[Andy Neil] “This is one of those statements that’s so extremely loaded. There are any number of things that anyone can point to and say, “certainly any NLE should be able to do that!” with the implication being that if it can’t, it doesn’t measure up. Just today, I was annoyed that I had to render a ramping speed effect in Avid to see if it matched the music I was cutting to. Surely any NLE worth it’s salt could do this without rendering?
BTW, how is SHIFT+F and D more of a workaround than CMD+C / CMD+V? I can matchframe/overwrite just as fast as I can copy/paste”
Very true, in fact I find replacing clips to be way faster in X than, say 7 or Pr. (despite the missing match frame replace, which needs to return) And I agree that the “framing” of the critique is a little hyperbolic. But to be fair, you can Paste Insert into the Primary, so Paste Overwrite would be a good addition. Also the ability to paste *at all* into a secondary. This is a reasonable request, unlike the previous love-fest about being able to paste into audio components, which is totally ridiculous IMO.
Honestly, I never really need to paste like this this… I can option drag clips to paste them within storylines if needed. Or find/replace as you note. And if I need to do a copy, paste, paste, paste I’ll just do it as connected, then select everything and bump ’em down or make a secondary if I want them all in a straight line or something… But I guess more basic paste options would be nice. I’ll send feedback. 🙂
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Andy Neil
June 13, 2014 at 3:46 pm[Charlie Austin] “Also the ability to paste *at all* into a secondary.”
You can copy/paste into the secondary if the clip you copy is from the secondary. But yes, it’s not possible from the browser and I don’t think it ever will. Since there are no “track selectors” in X, the only way to accomplish a paste into connected from the browser would be to have yet another dedicated shortcut which goes against the “ease of use” idea that Apple tries to maintain with their software.
David’s desire for a paste overwrite is more likely because it can be accomplished without an extra shortcut. Simply work the code so that copy/paste inserts if you have the selection tool active, and overwrites if you have the position tool active.
But I still maintain that copy/pasting from the browser to the timeline is trying to make an NLE, any NLE, act like a text editor. The only time I found copy/paste to be that effective as a tool in editing was using it to copy/paste clips from clips already in the sequence or from one sequence to another. Not for basic editing tasks.
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Charlie Austin
June 13, 2014 at 3:54 pm[Andy Neil] “But I still maintain that copy/pasting from the browser to the timeline is trying to make an NLE, any NLE, act like a text editor. The only time I found copy/paste to be that effective as a tool in editing was using it to copy/paste clips from clips already in the sequence or from one sequence to another. Not for basic editing tasks.”
If David was talking about copy/pasting from the browserI totally agree. Theres no reason I can think of to do that. But I do think the ability to paste overwrite into a primary an secondary could be useful, as well as being able to paste from outside a secondary into it if you select it. Again, I actually didn’t realize you couldn’t because I never do, but I don’t think adding another (modifier)-V command would hurt…
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David Powell
June 13, 2014 at 6:03 pmAre you wrapping/transcoding media first and “leaving it in place?” How would you deal with FS700 footage for example that needs to optimize in FCP X. I suppose you can dig it out the library and move it to an external folder.
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Darren Roark
June 13, 2014 at 9:52 pmThe FS700 footage isn’t actually optimized, it’s rewrapped into a quicktime wrapper. So you are still using the native codec in the NLE you migrate to.
I have been doing something similar with FCP X on set for a while now. I would have to make bins manually before so this is a great development.
Some producers would get really upset when they ‘caught’ me using FCP X, but when I’d include a PP CS6 project file already prepped they came around.
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Paul Neumann
June 13, 2014 at 11:00 pmPrelude makes excellent folders/keywords/subclips for use in FCPX.
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David Lawrence
June 14, 2014 at 1:29 am[Richard Herd] “THANK YOU!!!”
You’re welcome! 😀
I did another CS6 test and it’s actually even easier than I described above –
1) open the subclip in the source browser, mark in and out for the entire sub clip
2) selected the Edit Subclip… menu item
3) check the “convert to master clip” checkboxDone! No need to re-edit the subclip’s start and end times.
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David Lawrence
June 14, 2014 at 2:07 am[Andy Neil] “David’s desire for a paste overwrite is more likely because it can be accomplished without an extra shortcut. Simply work the code so that copy/paste inserts if you have the selection tool active, and overwrites if you have the position tool active.”
[Charlie Austin] “If David was talking about copy/pasting from the browserI totally agree. Theres no reason I can think of to do that. But I do think the ability to paste overwrite into a primary an secondary could be useful, as well as being able to paste from outside a secondary into it if you select it. Again, I actually didn’t realize you couldn’t because I never do, but I don’t think adding another (modifier)-V command would hurt…”
Exactly! That’s all I’m talking about – having another modifier key that overwrite pastes instead of the default insert paste.
And just to be clear, I’m not talking about using the browser. Just the opposite. I want to be able to select a range, cut or copy, and overwrite paste directly from the primary into the primary. I don’t want to go back to the browser at all.
[Andy Neil] “The only time I found copy/paste to be that effective as a tool in editing was using it to copy/paste clips from clips already in the sequence or from one sequence to another.”
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. I use this technique all the time when cutting dialogue and interviews.
BTW, Shift-F only works if the entire clip is selected. What do you do if you want to select a range inside the primarily and cut/copy or paste from that?
I can option-V paste as connected, then option-command-down to overwrite to primary, but that only overwrites video not audio. Now I have to trim back the incoming clip’s audio that just dropped below what should have been an overwrite. Fail.
I don’t see any easy way to do what should be a trivially simple edit this way, using just the primary.
Am I missing something?
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Craig Alan
June 15, 2014 at 12:57 amI think this would work.
Forgive me if this has been covered.
Select range or clip in the timeline.
copy then paste as a connected clip or any where it is convenient.
position tool drag the copied clip where you want to overwrite.
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