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[Bill Davis] “Well, technically *I* am a one-man-band editor working out of a bedroom.
I’m currently working on 5 videos for 4 clients with operations stretched from the east coast to the west coast as well as my own small personal global initiatives.
And I AM very particularly making money doing it. “
Bill,
My post wasnt a dig at people working from home. Wish I could do it too. Not sure where you took that from my original post and wasnt directed at anyone here.
I was just pointing out, that lots of people buy editing software – who aren’t editors or have no interest in doing it professionally for money.
Im talking about your neighbors kids making skateing videos, the youtube v logger with 20 subscribers, etc. People wanting to make a picture slideshow for their friends wedding. Will a handfull of them eventually get into editing…maybe?
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Totally agree with you, all my DP friends edit some of their own stuff (for better or worse), and director friends, etc.
I just think people throw these numbers around too often without thinking of all the variables.
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[Neil Goodman] “I just think people throw these numbers around too often without thinking of all the variables.”
It’s also important to keep in mind that the source of this info is a startup company that no one that I know uses or has even heard of. These stats may or may not be true but a more accurate gauge of FCPX usage and adoption is the marketplace that you live in. As a previous post stated, in the Bay Area FCPX has been adopted by a small number of companies. And since it’s been nearly seven years since it’s release, the notion of an upward trend in adoption of FCPX professionally seems unlikely.
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[Neil Goodman] “Im talking about your neighbors kids making skateing videos, the youtube v logger with 20 subscribers, etc. People wanting to make a picture slideshow for their friends wedding. Will a handfull of them eventually get into editing…maybe?”
Curious as to why folks in those “not for profit” operations decided to part with $300-400 bucks when there are plenty of capable cheap or free alternatives – but let’s imagine, say a full third (600,000) of the X base just wanted to toss their money at Apple with no expectation of a monetary return, it would probably be equally interesting to determine the percentage of the Adobe Subscribers base who pay their monthly $XX and never edit a frame of video for money.
Wonder which system harbors the most “have it but don’t generate a penny from it” practioners – folks who, as you say – someday might decide to try to make a buck at it?
We’ll likely never know.
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FWIW, the statement “The BBC has globally switched to FCP X for news” came from someone higher up the chain at the BBC that I just recently spoke to in Amsterdam. So that was not an assumption or guess on my part. It’s straight from the lion’s mouth if you will and I have no reason to believe that person had any reason to lie to me or exaggerate.
– RK
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[Neil Goodman] “the youtube v logger with 20 subscribers”
… or any one of the largest, most well known “vloggers” that YouTube has to offer up. Such as Neistat, Marques Brownlee any many many more making millions with as many subscribers. Go figure. Are THEY “editors” or do the live up to everyone’s so distinct idea of “PRO”?
Either way I’d say anyone actually putting more relevance and value into what feature A, B or C Hollywood edited on and none into these “just some YT vloggers” is making a huge mistake in terms of relevance for the global market in the long term and might want to rethink his use of such a high horse. ????
– RK
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[Bill Davis] “but let’s imagine, say a full third (600,000) of the X base just wanted to toss their money at Apple with no expectation of a monetary return, it would probably be equally interesting to determine the percentage of the Adobe Subscribers base who pay their monthly $XX and never edit a frame of video for money.”
I bet it would be pretty even.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Such as Neistat, Marques Brownlee any many many more making millions with as many subscribers. Go figure. Are THEY “editors” or do the live up to everyone’s so distinct idea of “PRO”?
“Id say those guys are Pro because they’re making money. That’s why I specifically said the v logger with 20 subscribers.
not millions.[Robin S. Kurz] ”
Either way I’d say anyone actually putting more relevance and value into what feature A, B or C Hollywood edited on and none into these “just some YT vloggers” is making a huge mistake in terms of relevance for the global market in the long term and might want to rethink his use of such a high horse. ????”Again , completely missing the point as usual. I simply stated that there are without a doubt a lot of people who buy editing software that never wind up making money off of editing, and those people are counted as “seats”. Not sure how that turns into the relavance of hollywood workflows going forward but keeping beating that horse buddy.
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[Oliver Peters] “[Tony West] “Unless Pr has sold 10 million seats can’t be 5 x 1 overall.”
My 5:1 ratio pertains only to the numbers on their site, as I pointed out in the beginning and 2 days ago.
“I know, that’s why I said “overall”, which is more important than just that site.
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[Bill Davis] “Curious as to why folks in those “not for profit” operations decided to part with $300-400 bucks when there are plenty of capable cheap or free alternatives -“
Maybe the free/cheaper alternatives don’t meet their needs? If you head over to DVXUser or DVinfo (or even the digital video forum on Macrumors) you’ll see a lot of hobbyists/enthusiasts that are more than willing to pay for the tools they want to use even though their projects aren’t intended to be money makers. The free version of Resolve is obviously a compelling target, but if someone’s more comfortable working with X then they’ll probably think the cost of entry is worth it. Not long ago this same category of people were paying about the same amount for Final Cut Express or even more for FCP Legend.
[Bill Davis] “it would probably be equally interesting to determine the percentage of the Adobe Subscribers base who pay their monthly $XX and never edit a frame of video for money.”
Isn’t there an old joke about PPro being a ‘free’ NLE that came bundled with AE? ????
Joking aside, if someone prefers Adobe’s tools then they are probably okay paying the annual fee. I mean, I think I’m slated to spend more annually on my rock climbing hobby than I do on CC, and rock climbing certainly doesn’t earn me any money.
[Robin S. Kurz] “Are THEY “editors” or do the live up to everyone’s so distinct idea of “PRO”?”
If they are anything like the YouTubers I’ve worked with they wouldn’t call themselves editors even though they might edit their own videos. To that point, I haven’t see either one use the title of “editor” to label themselves. I think it’s normal to draw distinctions between being able to do something, being able to get paid to do something, and being able to specialize in something. For example, on many of my smaller projects I not only edit I also do sound design, gfx, mixing, grading, etc., but I don’t label myself a sound designer or graphic artist. I’m an editor and I can certainly do those other things if need be, but speaking in generalities, I think it would be pretty egotistical of me to assume I can do them as quickly and effectively as someone that’s been doing it all day, every day for years and years.
[Robin S. Kurz] “Either way I’d say anyone actually putting more relevance and value into what feature A, B or C Hollywood edited on and none into these “just some YT vloggers” is making a huge mistake in terms of relevance for the global market in the long term and might want to rethink his use of such a high horse. ????”
Global market in terms of what? And do you think that FCP.co is up on a high horse as well with their focus on films and TV shows?
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