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  • Loren Risker

    November 3, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    In my experience of freelancing in the San Francisco Bay Area, production houses, or anyone with a dedicated video team is still firmly locked into Adobe. Every now and then I’ll get an FCPX only job, but it’s rare. Most work I get doesn’t care what I use since I am the video team. I know it’s been said plenty, but it’s not really FCPX vs Premiere, it’s FCPX vs the Creative Cloud. Until there’s truly a workflow that doesn’t involve painfully waiting for an Adobe app to launch, Premiere is going to dominate. It just seems easier, even if it takes more time.

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    OutOfFocus.TV – Music Videos 24/7

  • Robin S. kurz

    November 4, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    [Loren Risker] “Until there’s truly a workflow that doesn’t involve painfully waiting for an Adobe app to launch”

    What does that mean? That in your opinion no workflow can do without the one or other Adobe app?

    – RK

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  • Loren Risker

    November 4, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Projects can, but I’ve yet to go a month without needing Photoshop or illustrator.

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    OutOfFocus.TV – Music Videos 24/7

  • Robin S. kurz

    November 4, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    [Loren Risker] “but I’ve yet to go a month without needing Photoshop or illustrator.”

    Well, those are what I personally have the Affinity apps for and am extremely happy for it. They really show what performance is and at the same time what horribly ancient code Adobe apps obviously run off of… never mind the “ransomware” aspect of it all. But to each his own.

    – RK

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  • Loren Risker

    November 4, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    That Affinity app looks really cool. Would love to replace all Adobe apps and ready to just ship in an instant.

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    OutOfFocus.TV – Music Videos 24/7

  • Noah Kadner

    November 4, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    Also check out Autodesk Graphic (formerly iDraw) for simpler vector jobs you might have done previously in Illustrator.

    Noah

    FCPWORKS – FCPX Workflow
    FCP Exchange – FCPX Workshops
    XinTwo – FCPX Training

  • Gabe Strong

    November 5, 2017 at 5:11 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Yet, if you do a quick search in the US only, the total listings are actually 3X for Premiere Pro over FCPX. Worldwide, it’s 5X for Premiere Pro.”
    I am always fascinated by claims such as this without any backup. Where are you
    searching? Google? Yahoo? Jobs.com? Making general claims such as
    ‘there are 3x the total numbers of jobs for Premiere over FCP X’
    with absolutely no qualifiers or supporting data seems…….possibly
    a bit misleading, even if that wasn’t your intention.

    In my admittedly ‘anecdotal’ evidence searching for video jobs, I have not found the same thing
    you seem to have found. As a simple way to test this, I typed in ‘Video Editor’ in Indeed.com.
    The following attached screenshots are the first page of results

    Interesting notes. Most mention both Adobe and FCP. A Some mention only OTHER
    Adobe apps such as Photoshop being used in conjunction with FCP, instead of with
    Premiere. And a lot mention Mac OS X for some reason. But there certainly is not any
    3 or 5 times preference of Adobe over FCP that I can see. Again, it’s just one search and
    means nothing in the larger scheme of things, but this is more of what I am seeing……clients
    asking for those who know several different programs and not just ‘Adobe’.

    Gabe Strong
    G-Force Productions
    http://www.gforcevideo.com

  • Robin S. kurz

    November 5, 2017 at 8:33 am

    [Oliver Peters] “The rating is for year-over-year growth. Yet, if you do a quick search in the US only, the total listings are actually 3X for Premiere Pro over FCPX. Worldwide, it’s 5X for Premiere Pro.”

    Erm… you said it yourself, “The rating is for year-over-year growth“, in which case the present state of affairs is irrelevant, since this is pointing to the future.

    That being an aside from me personally most certainly not seeing a 5:1(??!) ratio by any stretch either. Definitely not WORLDWIDE either way. So either that’s complete hyperbole or just very poorly researched.

    – RK

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  • Oliver Peters

    November 5, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    [Gabe Strong] “I am always fascinated by claims such as this without any backup.”

    This is not a claim without back-up. This comes from a summary on the Upwork site, since that’s the only site this thread discussion was related to. I did a search on Upwork filtered for Final Cut Pro X and Premiere Pro, either US only or worldwide and that’s were the numbers come from. See my response to Robin for screen grabs. These numbers are based on people who have decided to list themselves with Upwork and identify these skills.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    November 5, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    [Robin S. Kurz] “That being an aside from me personally most certainly not seeing a 5:1(??!) ratio by any stretch either. Definitely not WORLDWIDE either way. So either that’s complete hyperbole or just very poorly researched.”

    Found where I got to the numbers. See these screen grabs:

    So 18,197 (Premiere Pro) versus 3,645 (Final Cut Pro X) would be a fivefold difference in favor of Premiere Pro.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

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