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Oliver Peters
November 6, 2017 at 8:49 pm[Tom Sefton] “Fcpx might be used in bbc for some productions but for most long form stuff it’s avid or premiere”
It’s my understanding that the BBC, like most other large media enterprises, doesn’t have one single NLE that’s used across the board. Each operating unit can decide what works best for them. Even within a unit, one location might have something different than another. I don’t know exactly what the BBC’s deployment of FCPX is, but it generally sounds like on-site news editing, such as in OB vans and not necessarily back in the news department. I could have that completely wrong, so maybe someone with direct knowledge can chime in.
In any case, even if the BBC is using it, that wouldn’t necessarily affect freelance numbers (the subject of this discussion), since I would presume those editors hold staff jobs.
– Oliver
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Tom Sefton
November 6, 2017 at 8:56 pmexactly – individual production companies that are making programs for the bbc are the ones that use freelancers in the most part and they choose what fits them best. For the majority it is still avid and adobe. Fcpx is used but in the main by news and some sports.
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Ronny Courtens
November 7, 2017 at 8:17 amIt’s a common misunderstanding that the BBC “only” uses FCP X for news and sports. BBC Factual exclusively uses FCP X for long-form documentary and other factual work. And 14 regional production companies (any kind of programming) are making the switch from FCP7 to FCP X as we speak. I will be visiting them next month.
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Tony West
November 7, 2017 at 1:14 pmThe article is saying that freelancers are adding X skills to their profiles faster than other NLEs on that particular site.
That’s good news for X period.
As far as freelancers over all, if X has sold 2 million seats how many of those people use it to freelance. I would say just about all of them. I don’t know many people in the biz that don’t do some type of freelancing.
Unless Pr has sold 10 million seats can’t be 5 x 1 overall.
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Neil Goodman
November 7, 2017 at 3:07 pm[Tony West] “As far as freelancers over all, if X has sold 2 million seats how many of those people use it to freelance. I would say just about all of them. I don’t know many people in the biz that don’t do some type of freelancing.
“Id have to imagine a good portion of those reported seats of any NLE come from one man band bedroom type editors..lots of people not particularly making money off editing. With the cost of entry these days I dont think its too far fetched t think a good chunk of sales goes to hobbyists.
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Oliver Peters
November 7, 2017 at 3:07 pm[Tony West] “Unless Pr has sold 10 million seats can’t be 5 x 1 overall.”
My 5:1 ratio pertains only to the numbers on their site, as I pointed out in the beginning and 2 days ago.
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Oliver Peters
November 7, 2017 at 3:09 pm[Neil Goodman] “Id have to imagine a good portion of those reported seats of any NLE come from one man band bedroom type editors..lots of people not particularly making money off editing.”
Also, when you review the listings, you’ll see that a lot of these freelancers list multiple skills, so Premiere Pro AND FCPX. There’s a lot of overlap in the numbers.
– Oliver
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Oliver Peters
November 7, 2017 at 4:17 pm[Ronny Courtens] “BBC Factual exclusively uses FCP X for long-form documentary and other factual work.”
Good info. This will provide a further insight into how BBC operates:
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2006/12/17/the-bbcs-digital-media-initiative/
I wrote this in 2006 when BBC Factual and Learning was featured in Apple’s FCP videos. This was part of the now-defunct Creative Desktop initiative. However, the rationale then is still applicable today and a good reason why FCPX makes sense for them.
As a general rule, the BBC usually cannot promote any given product that they use, because of legal guidelines. So they might use a ton of a particular product, but that info isn’t officially publicized.
– Oliver
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Bill Davis
November 7, 2017 at 11:33 pm[Neil Goodman] “Id have to imagine a good portion of those reported seats of any NLE come from one man band bedroom type editors..lots of people not particularly making money off editing. With the cost of entry these days I dont think its too far fetched t think a good chunk of sales goes to hobbyists.”
Well, technically *I* am a one-man-band editor working out of a bedroom.
I’m currently working on 5 videos for 4 clients with operations stretched from the east coast to the west coast as well as my own small personal global initiatives.
And I AM very particularly making money doing it.
I can (and greatly enjoy) doing it from my spare bedroom. Or a hotel room, a cafe, an airplane, or wherever else I choose.
And sorry, but for the clients that rely on me for my understanding of their particular operations, project needs and preferences could care less where my editorial “seat” is located.
That is increasingly going to be the new “normal” IMO.
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Oliver Peters
November 8, 2017 at 12:02 am[Neil Goodman] “With the cost of entry these days I dont think its too far fetched t think a good chunk of sales goes to hobbyists”
I think that’s really good bet. But I think it’s also a mixed bag. I see a lot of video pros, who aren’t editors (directors, DPs, etc.) own FCPX, just because they do a little editing from time to time. I also see pro editors who own it as part of their “software kit”. They might use Premiere or Media Composer for the “heavy lifting”, but use FCPX for the fast assembly jobs. Then you have places that have deployed it within a company or department. So it’s probably a much broader cross-section of total users than any other NLE can claim, including FCP “legacy”.
– Oliver
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