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  • FCPX and XMP

  • Matt Babcock

    February 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Does anyone know what kind of XMP support FCPX has if any?

  • Noah Kadner

    February 15, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    What sort are you looking for?

    Noah

    Call Box Training.
    Featuring the Panasonic GH2 and Panasonic AC160/130.

  • Matt Babcock

    February 15, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    I guess most importantly, can it read XMP fields at all. For example could I update a file in Bridge and fill in IPTC fields and have those be accessible in FCPX

  • Dennis Radeke

    February 15, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Hey there – Dennis from Adobe. I just launched FCP X and scoured around the interface to see if there was anything like Adobe’s metadata panel. Unfortunately, I came up empty. Hit the help box and similarly came up with nothing. I would love to hear from someone if I’m in error here, but I’m pretty confident that there is no XMP support for FCP X.

    Hope I’m wrong.

  • Lance Bachelder

    February 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Would Apple even consider XMP? Seems like they always go their own direction, especially when we’re talking open source and open standards… Couldn’t someone write a way to take data entered in Bridge and conform it to FCPX such as roles, favorites etc?

    XMP looks like a great thing, what other major post or fx software company is using it?

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Matt Babcock

    February 16, 2012 at 2:19 am

    For video it is really only Adobe that I’ve found so far, which makes them a hands down winner if you want embedded metadata as a lynch pin in your workflow. The fields aren’t perfect for video but it is more like an oval peg and a round hole rather than a square one.

  • Dennis Radeke

    February 16, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    There are a couple of broadcast vendors that use it as well as a couple of MAM (Media Asset Management) vendors as well. Chyron uses it for graphics, Media Beacon and Day (now Adobe) use it for MAM. For print, XMP is used as well, but that’s not my area of expertise.

    Point is that there are uses in broadcast, it’s free, extensible and open so we try to foster its growth. Bridge is as well, so perhaps someone would write a plugin for it to allow a specific workflow to map the metadata from XMP to FCP X.

    Here’s the SDK page if anyone wants to pass it on: https://www.adobe.com/devnet/xmp.html

  • Matt Babcock

    February 16, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Additionally I believe Final Cut Server can work with it as well. And depending on your workflows I think Final Cut Server and Adobe Premiere actually have a lot of advantages over using it with FCP since you should be able to get round trip metadata. I’m planing on testing this out in the near future.

    Dennis are there any other NLEs that can read xmp?

  • Dennis Radeke

    February 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    [Matt Babcock] “Dennis are there any other NLEs that can read xmp?”

    Not that I know of Matt. Avid has their own propietary metadata format, FCP X is known what it is and isn’t around metadata and I can’t honestly speak to either Edius or Vegas, but would doubt that they do it.

    Metadata is still (frustratingly) just becoming more aware to editors and content creators and distribution. The industry is getting there, but it’s too slow in my opinion. Adobe’s done a lot here, but frankly we can do better as well.

  • Lance Bachelder

    February 16, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Vegas has a Media Manager where metadata can be created. The biggest problem with metadata regardless of system, is that it must be created by someone. On an indie feature for instance there is usually not a post budget sufficient fora pro Asst. Editor or 1st so there would never be money for someone to sit and create proper tags for all the shots. If I was cutting a union show it would be nice to assign an assistant to create proper metadata for every shot based on the needs of the show. I haven’t tried XMP yet as I haven’t had a show to cut in PPro – but it is on the list to try for the next feature film…

    For many of us, without a proper budget, trained staff and schedule that allows for organization, metadata will remain one of those things we wish we could use every time we see a cool demo of how great it is…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

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