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  • FCP X vs MC pricing

    Posted by Oliver Peters on September 15, 2013 at 1:48 am

    Food for thought… For the first time, it costs more to build up a package of tools for FCP X that would equal what you have in the standard Avid Media Composer bundle

    FCP X $300
    Motion 5 $50
    Compressor 4 $50
    Xto7 $50
    7toX $10
    Event Manager X $5
    X2Pro Audio Convert $150
    Change List X $200
    Sync N Link X $200
    EDL X $100
    Hawaiki Color $50
    Nattress Curves $50

    Total $1215

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

    Oliver Peters replied 12 years, 8 months ago 17 Members · 47 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    September 15, 2013 at 2:08 am

    In that list are a bunch of tools that aren’t bundled with Avid MC.

    Motion 5 – Boris can do some things, but not all that Motion can.

    Sync N Link – Nothing like this in Avid.

    Hawaiki Color/Nattress Curves – Might find something comparable in Symphony, which is a $700 add on.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 2:22 am

    You missed the point. These are equivalent, not identical products.

    For the record, the MC bundle includes AvidFX (same as Boris RED), Sorenson Squeeze, Avid DVD (PC only), EDL Manager, Film Scribe, ALE and Media Log. All for about $1K these days.

    [Shane Ross] “Motion 5 – Boris can do some things, but not all that Motion can.”

    Though not identical, AvidFX is a companion compositor, just like Motion. FWIW – AvidFX also adds a healthy set of BCC and FEC filters, but there are very nice filters in X and Motion. So I consider that more or less equal.

    [Shane Ross] “Sync N Link – Nothing like this in Avid.”

    Sure there is. It’s built into MC. AutoSynch. Just to be clear, Sync-N-Link X does not do post synching.

    [Shane Ross] “Hawaiki Color/Nattress Curves – Might find something comparable in Symphony, which is a $700 add on.”

    Nope. I’m talking about standard color correction with color wheels and curves tools. These plug-ins give you that. Doesn’t require Symphony as these tools are in MC.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • John Pale

    September 15, 2013 at 3:20 am

    [Oliver Peters] “[Shane Ross] “Hawaiki Color/Nattress Curves – Might find something comparable in Symphony, which is a $700 add on.”

    Nope. I’m talking about standard color correction with color wheels and curves tools. These plug-ins give you that. Doesn’t require Symphony as these tools are in MC.

    Right about the plugins, though FCPX has some secondary color correction built in, Avid doesn’t. Avid hamstrings the color corrector in MC so they can sell you the Symphony option. Which is a $1400 add on unless they reduced it to $700 and I missed it.

    I’m an Avid editor and enthusiast, but longtime FCP user as well…however I am not a big fan of FCPX. Just got to be truthful and say your comparison is not all that accurate. Also, have to agree with Shane…Motion is not really like Boris RED aka AvidFX at all.

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    September 15, 2013 at 6:56 am

    With FCPX I get the option of deciding if I need these extra tools or not. For most of the work I do for TV or internet I wouldn’t even need half the stuff on that list.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Helge Tjelta

    September 15, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Also, if you use FCPX, motion, compressor and DaVinci, you don’t need the extra stuff…

    If you never use EDL, 7 to x or x to 7, the only thing you really need is xtoPro, to get the audio out…

    so

    FCPX, Motion, compressor, DaVinci and X2Pro, is still far less, for us that has left to “OLD” way of working.

    🙂

    Helge

  • Leo Hans

    September 15, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Oliver,

    I don’t think you need Xto7 if you have X2Pro and EDLX
    Change List X?
    Hawaiki + Natress Color? (Not to mention the option to have DaVinci for free, just supposing FCPX color correction is not enough).

    Leo Hans
    Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro (7+X)
    https://www.leohans.com

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Just to add an edit. The price would actually be $1315, since one would have to add SliceX w-Mocha, as well.

    None of this is a judgement, however. Merely that we’ve passed some sort of milestone.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    [Leo Hans] “I don’t think you need Xto7 if you have X2Pro and EDLX”

    You do for project interchange with old FCP projects.

    [Leo Hans] “Hawaiki + Natress Color?”

    Answered in my reply to Shane.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    September 15, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Why would you need to add Slice X? Does Avid offer something similar in their package, automatic tracking? As far as I know they don’t…

    What if you don’t like avid fx? For me one of the reasons i never invested in Avid was the fact that you spend more money and get features you might never use.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • John Pale

    September 15, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Avid does have tracking in app. It’s decent but it ain’t Mocha.

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