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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    September 15, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Leo Laporte put forward the idea that apple might bundle the pro apps with the mac pro as a surprise announcement

    iOS gets iWork
    OSX gets iLife
    the new MacPro gets all that plus the Pro Apps, so that’s FCPX, Motion, Compressor, Aperture and Logic Pro? That’s about what, 700 dollars worth of apps?

    Drop in the ocean of the Mac Pro sticker price probably, but it would be a nice gesture, and they can say “ready to edit and post your next 4K feature out of the box, your own post production studio blah blah..”

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  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    [Nikolas Bäurle] “For most of the work I do for TV or internet I wouldn’t even need half the stuff on that list.”

    Obviously YMMV, but for the work I do with X, I’ve used a little bit of all of it, except Change List X. That includes web videos, TV commercials and indie features.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Marcus Moore

    September 15, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Sure there is. It’s built into MC. AutoSynch. Just to be clear, Sync-N-Link X does not do post synching.”

    FCPX also has built in syncing tools.

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “FCPX also has built in syncing tools.”

    Doesn’t work the same way and your new FCP X Synched Clips all end up starting with a 00:00:00:00 TC value. Useless for any professional editing where you need to go by TC.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Marcus Moore

    September 15, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    I admit that’s a problem that needs to be solved, but if you really need TC, then you can always to a “break apart clip items in the project timeline if you need that info while you edit or at the end when you need to export info. It takes about 10 seconds.

    Or do them as Multicam clips, which do retain TC.

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “but if you really need TC, then you can always to a “break apart clip items”

    I often need timecode at the master clip side, so “break apart” is pointless.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Marcus Moore

    September 15, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    I’m sorry Oliver, I don’t get what you mean here. Breaking apart clip items in the timeline leaves you with the original master clips (audio and video) in main Project.

    And again, if you need original TC within a container clip you can use a 2-track multicam clip.

  • Bill Davis

    September 15, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Theres also the topic of whether using TC for reference to assets is more or less valuable in a construct like X where database stored range references (plus agile and unlimited markers) in a keyword centric system makes content navigation so different … and dare I say so much simpler?

    Personally, other than window dubs for traditional clients. I don’t use overt timecode very regularly anymore. I DO use the timecode MATH in X – typing in + or – numbers into the HUD to move to areas of my storyline or define specific lengths when that’s important. But orienting around actual timecode locations seems to be something I rarely do now that I’m fluent in X.

    So is the necessity to deal with frames by thinking in timecode locations a process that is “as necessary” today with tools like X … or is it more a reflection of ingrained habit?

    The answer is probably different for each editor?

    YMMV.

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  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “I’m sorry Oliver, I don’t get what you mean here”

    I need to be able to see and sort by TC, so that when I search by TC or my client refers to TC I can go to it in the browser.

    [Marcus Moore] “if you need original TC within a container clip you can use a 2-track multicam clip”

    You’ve got to be joking! Do you realize how incredibly awkward that sounds? Now try that for 2,000 clips!

    😉

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    September 15, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Personally, other than window dubs for traditional clients.”

    I do that all the time.

    [Bill Davis] “But orienting around actual timecode locations seems to be something I rarely do now that I’m fluent in X”

    There is value in sorting by TC.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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