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FCP-X plus new MacPro = 16 track Multicam of 4k footage? Really??.
Santiago Martí replied 12 years, 7 months ago 22 Members · 113 Replies
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Steve Connor
October 29, 2013 at 6:21 pm[Chris Harlan] “Yes. Andy apparently has some rather severe social issues.”
He’s certainly igniting the debate again on here!
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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Chris Harlan
October 29, 2013 at 6:22 pm[Mark Dobson] “I think it’s important to acknowledge that all of the Apple Benchmark figures being discussed in this thread have been carried out on a comprehensively specked out Mac Pro:
“Yeah, that’s for sure. This is a 14/15 grand-ish system, just by itself, without monitors or storage.
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Chris Harlan
October 29, 2013 at 6:25 pm[Steve Connor] “[Chris Harlan] “Yes. Andy apparently has some rather severe social issues.”
He’s certainly igniting the debate again on here!
“Or quashing it. He’s certainly got enthusiasm, but he’s very difficult to have a discussion with.
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Simon Ubsdell
October 29, 2013 at 6:26 pm[Chris Harlan] “Yes. Andy apparently has some rather severe social issues.”
Surely “Andy” is a comedy character made up for our collective amusement?
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Mark Dobson
October 29, 2013 at 6:29 pmWell I guess that for my needs I’ll probably go for the D500 but then how many cores?
Either way I’m going to sit on the side and listen to actual production based feedback before making any purchase decisions.
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Jeremy Garchow
October 29, 2013 at 6:31 pm[Mark Dobson] “Well I guess that for my needs I’ll probably go for the D500 but then how many cores?
Either way I’m going to sit on the side and listen to actual production based feedback before making any purchase decisions.”
Barefeats.com is going to get a lot of hits that week.
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Tom Sefton
October 29, 2013 at 6:43 pm[Andy Branner] “:-)))) … right. So you’re doing nearly 600MB/s on your internal bus. Mmmmh-hmmmm… gotcha. LOL
Yeah, that totally beats the Mac Pro’s internal 1+GB/s… you totally got me.
Oh, and next time maybe at least TRY to hide the fact that the clips are (at best) running at quarter-res… mind you, 4K ProRes is 66+MB/s…
:facepalm:
Keep trying. :-D”
Try and give a modicum of respect towards a fellow professional who is showing the honest performance of a machine. This has been an interesting conversation so try and keep it interesting for the right reasons.
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Walter Soyka
October 29, 2013 at 6:55 pm[Mark Dobson] “Well I guess that for my needs I’ll probably go for the D500 but then how many cores? Either way I’m going to sit on the side and listen to actual production based feedback before making any purchase decisions.”
I think this is the most sensible course of action.
With pricing still TBD on the higher-spec models, and performance still TBD on the lower-spec models, there are still more questions than answers.
Walter Soyka
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Santiago Martí
October 29, 2013 at 7:06 pmKeep trying what?!?!? Try to hide what?!?! Got me where???
Are you 12 years old? Really, what is your point. A 1TB system flashdrive is your revolution? They’ve been around for ages. Yes, they are faster than my internal 3 year old 200$ raid, wow, magical! Do you actually use your system drive to store your editing material, are you that dumb? Do you actually edit for a living?
You have no clue what your talking about. I edit and color grade 4k and 5k material for a living. What I was trying to prove is that if you need to do 4K multicam, you can do it now, you don’t have to wait till december. It’s not impossible, nor magical, it is possible with a 3 year old system, though the software is almost new. 4K has been around for years now, it’s not another apple invention, you know. People actually has been working with 4K.
It is a 12 core xeon paired with 2 3K AMD GPU’s, what did you expect? Two HD clips and a dissolve? It is really not that impressive. Show me some DPX sequences rendering times with FX aplied. Does the new FCPX opens DPX sequences? That is what I want to know. Will it be able to send a timeline to motion? Will I be able to edit 6K Dragon footage with it whithot transcoding? What about Phantom originated material? That is what I want to know.
The MacPro is a computer with one CPU socket, 2 GPU, 64GB max ram, a flashdrive, 6 TB2 ports and no PCIEs in a really different design that runs FCPX at it’s best. If that’s what you need, it is clearly the best option. On the other hand, if you need two CPU sockets, more than 64GB of ram, more than 2 GPUs, incluiding NVIDIA as an option, and PCIEs, well, you won’t like it. That is my case.
It will be the fastest system to run FCPX on, but it won’t be faster than the latest HP z820 for that matter. And it’s cool, you don’t have to be angry. You’ll have your tube, I’ll have my mini fridge. Different needs require different solutions, I know it sounds obvious, but some people still don’t get it.
Santiago Martí
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Andrew Kimery
October 29, 2013 at 7:23 pm[Walter Soyka] “I will mention that 4K UHDTV (quad-HD) ProRes 422 at 23.976 fps runs 471 Mb/s. 16 streams of that is roughly 1 GB/s — right near the saturation point for the PCIe flash storage.
“Any guess why Apple mentions 3 streams of 4K in place but 16 streams in another?
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