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Herb Sevush
October 19, 2016 at 2:37 pm[Robin S. Kurz] “Which can be said of a LOT of people here, only in the exact opposite and every other direction. E.g. citing various functionality that plain doesn’t concern the vast majority of users, claiming the fact that X “still” doesn’t have whatever it is makes it “flawed”, worse than others, less usable, unprofessional et al? You know… because solipsism!”
Nobody on this forum has the slightest idea what the “vast majority of users” wants, likes or dislikes. We all know what we, and our small circle of working associates, like and dislike. As far as Apple goes, I thought their whole design mission was to ignore what the user wants and instead give them what Apple thinks they need. That being true, then even Apple doesn’t know what the “vast majority” wants. How about you ask for what you want and I ask for what I want and we’ll let the market place sort it out?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Brett Sherman
October 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm[Steve Connor] “Only if you’re not a very good Editor! rearranging clips in other NLE’s, despite the musings of some, ISN’T difficult if you know how to use that NLE properly.”
Point taken. But, my point is more along the lines path of least resistance affecting judgement. Not a conscious decision. Admittedly it’s just a musing and a little out there. But when has that stopped anyone on this board before. 🙂
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Brett Sherman
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Steve Connor
October 19, 2016 at 2:59 pm[Brett Sherman] “Point taken. But, my point is more along the lines path of least resistance affecting judgement. “
I agree with you, I think this can happen if you are not comfortable with the NLE you are using
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Robin S. kurz
October 19, 2016 at 4:02 pmWho’s surprised? I hear you have an amazingly astute sense of humor and aren’t afraid to prove it.
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Steve Connor
October 19, 2016 at 4:55 pm[Robin S. Kurz] “Who’s surprised? I hear you have an amazingly astute sense of humor and aren’t afraid to prove it.”
To be honest I only join in these arguments to keep my position at number 40 in the COW Hall of Fame. Bill overtook me a while ago and I’m trying to catch back up
https://forums.creativecow.net/hof.php
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Bill Davis
October 19, 2016 at 5:22 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Any criticism of X you explain away as either user error, user ignorance, irrelevant because the way X does it is better and/or irrelevant “
Let’s play a word swap game…
“Any PRAISE of X you explain away as either user thinking error, user ignorance, irrelevant because the way X does things is actually no better…”
Sound familiar?
Perhaps because that’s essentially a primary argument proffered in this forum in this thread?
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Claude Lyneis
October 19, 2016 at 5:38 pmSlightly off topic. As much as I enjoy this thread, I am unable to quote a post. I have read all the instructions –Select text and then hit Q or q. It has worked about twice in 100 tries. Safari or Firefox no different. OS X El Capitan. How are you guys making it work? Is there some magic Java code?
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Steve Connor
October 19, 2016 at 5:38 pm[Bill Davis] “”Any PRAISE of X you explain away as either user thinking error, user ignorance, irrelevant because the way X does things is actually no better…”
Sound familiar?
Perhaps because that’s essentially a primary argument proffered in this forum in this thread?
“Care to offer a quote or two to back that thinking up?
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Simon Ubsdell
October 19, 2016 at 6:14 pm[Tony West] “I was saying that Apple was making that guess. That “they” were betting more people would want it to default that way. I’m not really saying that they were right or wrong, I’m saying I believe that’s what “they” were doing.
Of course if they sell enough copies to make them happy then they would feel like they guessed right.”
I think you’re touching on a key point here.
The FCP X editing model grew out of, and is the same as, the iMovie editing model.
The iMovie editing model is what it is because it is aimed at “editors” doing a specific type of “editing”. This involves (after sifting material in the Event) butting shots up against each other, shortening some and lengthening others, shuffling the order, maybe adding a music track and possibly some cutaways. The iMovie/FCP X magnetic timeline with its default ripple mode and connected clips is the perfect solution to this type of editing, which is essentially shot assembly with a few refinements.
Apple clearly made the right call here in terms of maximising the appeal of iMovie/FCP X.
However, not every professional editor is not spending the majority of their working day doing this kind of shot-shuffling “assembly editing”, which is possibly why to some the “default ripple” concept doesn’t feel the most natural.
But of course it is not inherently worse or better – why anyone would want to argue that either way is something I can’t get my head around.
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Claude Lyneis
October 19, 2016 at 6:28 pm”
The iMovie editing model is what it is because it is aimed at “editors” doing a specific type of “editing”. This involves (after sifting material in the Event) butting shots up against each other, shortening some and lengthening others, shuffling the order, maybe adding a music track and possibly some cutaways. The iMovie/FCP X magnetic timeline with its default ripple mode and connected clips is the perfect solution to this type of editing, which is essentially shot assembly with a few refinements. ”I think this captures much of the FCPX philosophy and may also explain why some film directors like it for fast assembly. Also, the data base approach with keywords and browser definitely is a plus for early organization. This fits what I do, I have been learning AVID Protools and that is a mind bending process after using X for 5 years, although in shuffle mode it works a little like the magnetic time line.
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