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FCP X can’t do “pro” is officially vaporized.
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[Mike Warmels] “We’ve discussed this before, but I find it strange that if you change the roles in the source clip, it doesn’t change it in timeline. “
I encourage you to make a feature request that there be an “Update Project/Sequence” option that ripples changes to source clips into the selected project/sequence (like Avid’s Update Sequence). I wouldn’t want source clip changes/roles to automatically be applied to all projects. But the option to apply them to selected projects? Yes please. I’ve requested it several times already, but having multiple people request it would be even better.
You can submit feature requests here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html
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Michael Hancock
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Good point.
I can imagine certain situation where you don’t want ripple effects on roles. Like when you use an ambient as a sound effect. But on the other hand: music is always music… and sound effects are always sound effects.
Especially with the whole X2Pro, third party exports where correct roles are VITAL… I think it would be a necessary feature.
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[Mike Warmels] “music is always music… and sound effects are always sound effects.
“99.99% of the time, yes. Which is why I’ve also requested that you be able to assign a role to a keyword, so as soon as you drop your footage into the keyword collection it assumes that role.
But since you can have a clip in multiple keyword collections, I would like to see the program become aware of which collection you edit from. So if you edit from the Music keyword collection the audio is cut into your timeline as Music. But if you have a music track you want to also use as SFX you could drop it into your SFX keyword collection, with the SFX role added to the keyword, and when you edit the music from that collection it carries the SFX role into the sequence. So you could have multiple roles assigned to one clip, and the role that is applied it tied to a keyword collection.
There is a ton of possibilities with roles, keyword collections, events, etc…, but Apple doesn’t seem interested in exploring or expanding on any of them. It’s very frustrating and reminiscent of Avid in a lot of ways. They develop an incredible and powerful concept but it’s implemented in a very basic way, and it’s never improved upon.
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Michael Hancock
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Yes, I agree.
Well, for me the problem is that once something is in the timeline, it cannot automatically be corrected. You have to do everything again. If it’s a small sequence, it’s okay. If not… a lot of work.
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You can use the timeline index to make it faster, if you haven’t explored it much.
Example: If you have a keyword collection called “BRoll” and you didn’t tag those cilps as NAT or BRoll or whatever role you want them to have (audio or video), you can use the timeline index to quickly do that to your sequence. Go to the Tags column, search for BRoll, select everything, then apply a role. Or if it’s just one specific clip you can search the Clips column, select all instances of that clip in the timeline index (which selects all the clips in your sequence), then apply a role and it will be applied to all of them.
It helps a lot, but it’s still not as elegant as updating a sequence would be, or applying a role directly to a keyword at the event level.
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Michael Hancock
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[Bill Davis] “there were voices arguing loudly here right up to the release of Focus that Apple was TOTALLY jettisoning professionals, that FCP X was aimed at prosumers and web kiddies exclusively – and that the software was and always would be useless from any professional perspective. It was gleefully pronounced with poetic flourish here almost weekly. ”
If by chance you are referring to me Bill, you’re projecting again, because you will NEVER find a single instance anywhere on this planet where I said “never” about anything relating to the future FCP X, other than perhaps the fact that it would never be in my toolbox.
So please, pardon my intrusion, don’t let me interrupt your incessant circle-jerk here. Feel free to carry on patting yourself on the back for sticking with X through thick and thin for last five years, because I do have great admiration for consistency and loyalty.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los AngelesDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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[David Roth Weiss] “because you will NEVER find a single instance anywhere on this planet where I said “never” about anything relating to the future FCP X”
Yet you felt spoken to. Go figure.
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That’s a non-sequitur Robin. If you require a definition I’ll be happy to provide one.
And, people use non-sequetors to deflect attention from their own inability to formulate an adequate response to the question or statement that came before.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los AngelesDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “So I take it you missed this?
“Great – a 12 inch laptop? Who wants to edit on that?
All the people that brag about 4k native raw blah blah blah on an etch a sketch and all that – I’m like who the ef really cares?
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They?! Why, they is a plain and fancy they. That’s who “they” is. Caught you, didn’t they? Tied a tin can to your tail, led you in and waltzed you out again. Oh, my what a bunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtw4y6A31i0
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