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FCP X Auto-conforming footage: proper 3:2 pulldown insertion?
One of my longstanding pet peeves with FCP has been its inability to create proper 3:2 pulldown on 24p clips dropped into a 29.97 interlaced sequence. What we got instead was pathetic 2:2:2:4 pulldown.
I’ve read that FCP X will auto-conform clips to match the current project settings. Does FCP X add proper 3:2 pulldown to 24p clips in a 29.97 interlaced project (as I’m told Avid will do), or do we still get the crap-tacular 2:2:2:4 pulldown?
I realize that in light of all of the important stuff that’s currently missing from FCP X (proper tape I/O, EDL/XML/OMF support, proper video I/O card support, etc.) that this is relatively low on the list, but I’m just curious if any enterprising guinea pig has tried it yet.
Anybody? Anyone? Bueller?
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Well. I just did a test for you and doesn’t look good. Still seems to be the “pathetic 2:2:2:4 pulldown”. Now that makes me sad. I thought I remembered them saying they changed it at that NAB meeting.
tony
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[Tony Silanskas] “Well. I just did a test for you and doesn’t look good. Still seems to be the “pathetic 2:2:2:4 pulldown”.”
Thank you for testing. That’s disappointing, but not surprising.
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Oh my god.
I put a 1080p23.98 clip in a 108029.97i project, exported and its….
CORRECT! 2:3 pulldown, fields, and everything. FINALLY.
I can’t believe it. AV Foundation just impressed me another notch more.
Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
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An addendum…stepping though the timeline frame by frame, it looks like 2:2:2:4.
But on export it’s right.
Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
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It seems to be right for exported interlaced projects but not for progressive. If you can, try putting a 23.98 clip in a 59.94 project and exporting it. Or just make a 29.97P project and do it in there.
tony
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[Tony Silanskas] “Or just make a 29.97P project and do it in there”
There’s no such thing as correctly putting a 23.98 file into a 29.97P stream. You need the fields to do it correctly.
To make 23.98 go into 30P smoothly there needs to be morphing work like Twixtor or Optical Flow.
Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
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You might be right about 720p59.94 though. I didn’t check that out.
But that bit about 30P I mentioned above is def impossible, really, without doing way more complicated processing that I couldn’t expect in an editing program.
Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
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Agreed with the 29.97p. Just wasn’t sure if you had 59.94p material laying around to test. Just wanted you to see the 2:2:2:4 wrongness.
tony
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[Nate Weaver] “here’s no such thing as correctly putting a 23.98 file into a 29.97P stream. You need the fields to do it correctly.”
No your do not Nate,
if you were correct there would be no such thing as 720p.
pulldown works with true progressive content also.
gary adcock
Studio37Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, ILhttps://blogs.creativecow.net/24640
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So Gary, what’s your take on Apple using 2:2:2:4? Are we missing something here as in that’s the best way?
tony
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