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FCP X and Premiere Pro CS
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[Andy Neil] “I have to either perform a replace edit followed by a trim, making sure I include any overlapping tracks in the trim, or else an insert edit followed by an extract or lift and then selecting forward and reconnecting the entire sequence so it’s in the right place.”
no. that’s kind of completely wrong actually. to make this as simple as possible. you cannot, as per my example, even FCP7 style drag and drop an item onto the second level, cutting into the second level video object and sitting below the third level video object.
to be clear – you cannot enact basic speculative editing decisions because of the enforced hierarchy.
it’s not rocket science this.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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You’re mis-representing me. You quoted me talking about Avid and then proceed to tell me I’m completely wrong by explaining what you can’t do in FCPX. Huh?
[Aindreas Gallagher] “you cannot, as per my example, even FCP7 style drag and drop an item onto the second level, cutting into the second level video object and sitting below the third level video object.”
You’re not wrong. At least not with a single move. You can of course drag the clip atop the 2nd level clip and then move the next clip down up so that it’s above the new clip. Or you can mark an IN halfway into the 2nd level clip and an OUT at the point where the 3rd level clip starts and then hit Q to place a connected clip that is above the 2nd layer and adjacent to the 3rd layer which gives you the same result because unless you’re compositing, having the new clip exist beneath the 3rd level clip does nothing. And if you are compositing? Just grab the edge of the new clip and drag and the 3rd level clip will rise up to get out of the way.
It’s not rocket science. You’re right. I have no trouble doing what you’re asking, nor does it take me any real length of time to do it in X. But just like the point I was making before, I can easily point to things that are done FAR more simply in X than can be accomplished in Avid or FCP7 or Premiere. It doesn’t mean anything.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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I never said you were not part of the “real’ world, Steve. Just that what FCPX has to offer at the moment does not – even remotely – meet my needs. Cheers.
Tim
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[Andy Neil] “You can of course drag the clip atop the 2nd level clip and then move the next clip down up so that it’s above the new clip. Or you can mark an IN halfway into the 2nd level clip and an OUT at the point where the 3rd level clip starts and then hit Q to place a connected clip that is above the 2nd layer and adjacent to the 3rd layer “
and hello everyone to the utter and complete insanity that is FCPX. an editing system answering questions no one ever asked very badly.
apologies andy – that still is my basic position on it.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[TImothy Auld] “I have forgotten more about organization than you will ever know,”
Every single time someone has uttered this to me, it has been complete b.s.
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Is there a subject and a predicate there?
Tim
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Not to mention that I did not “utter” it to you but to Mr. Duy Vu. Perhaps you should best let him respond.
Tim
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[Brett Sherman] “Every once in awhile I run into a conundrum with the connected clips, but not very often. There are different conundrums you run into with a track-style editor. I’m not sure you could say one is better than another in that regard.”
I honestly can’t think of a time when I had a “conundrum” with a track-based editor. Can you elaborate? Not trying to be obnoxious; truly curious.
Chris
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “that still is my basic position on it”
We get it Andy. You’re a Premiere person and that’s cool. Not even sure why you continue to post on this forum.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
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old habits die hard. same goes for quite a few people on here. I haven’t raged on the timeline in a respectably long time tho..
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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