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FCP-X and misrepresentation
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[Bill Davis] “Sheesh. Of COURSE it’s all marketing and self promotion and what’s wrong with that?”
FWIW – I removed my post from last night after reading Evan’s reply this morning. Not because I felt it was off-base in general, but rather that I didn’t really think it applied to him. Especially after reading his explanation of their approach. I just didn’t think it contributed to the discussion. I certainly appreciated his post. This place is a tough crowd at times. Being a CTO for a shop like @Radical is very difficult, especially when trying to read the tea leaves and making the right choices for the technology, staff and clients.
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Ah, yes.. the NEXT update is going to be awesome. It’s always that “next” update for some reason… 😉
Yeah – I think we can all agree that the horsepower/GPU is all great, but from Day 1, my biggest beef with X was the lack of project sharing. I’m in a facility with 20 full time people, and we’re ALWAYS bouncing project around to different editors/assistants, working simultaneously, etc… The Avid Bin Locking structure is by far the best implementation of that workflow, and FCP 7 could (accidentally) imitate it reasonably well.
If they ever get a workable project sharing capability for FCP-X, I’ll give it another look – but in the meantime, Premiere/Avid (& FCP 7) are doing the job quite nicely, thank you very much…
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be it FCP-X, or Thunderbolt, or RED Cameras, or SSD’s or problems with Blackmagic and AJA cards with Adobe Premiere, I respectfully reserve the right to post my observations on a public forum. I started doing this with AVID Media Composer on AVID-L, (which became AVID-L2, and then FCP-L) and now Creative Cow, that seems to have taken over most of the other forums out there.
There is nothing that drives me more crazy than when you have a problem with a product – and you think that you are an idiot because you can’t get something to work – and you contact the company, and they tell you “no one else is having this issue”. It’s these forums that allow the truth to come out. My memorable one for Creative Cow is when both Walter Biscardi and myself were having AJA Kona 3 audio popping problems with 720p video, and at the time AJA told us independently that they had never heard of that problem, when both of us were complaining about the same problem at the same time to the same people. It is only because of forums like Creative Cow that the truth comes out. Now I LOVE AJA, and Walter Biscardi LOVES AJA (that’s all he uses, and that’s all I try to install), but when there are problems, it should NOT be a secret, and it should not seem “disrespectful”.
I am not bashing FCP-X – I think it’s becoming a great product, and while it may have problems, so does Adobe Premiere CC. And everyone knows that @RadicalMedia is a top production company in NY, that has the long track record to prove it over and over again. I was just stating my observation, which took me by surprise. I should have no negative feeling about making my observation – no differently than when Adobe/AVID/Blackmagic/AJA/Apple, etc. comes out with the new 2014 product XYZ – and if there are problems, they should be discussed RIGHT AWAY on Creative Cow (and other forums). That’s the whole purpose of being here.
If we can’t do that, then I might as well go back to reading Videography and POST Magazine, that would NEVER tolerate behavior that I have exhibited in threads like this.
Bob Zelin
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Herb,
You are essentially asking me to publish a retraction of an article that was written, not by me. When I saw FCPX I recognized it as the future- I felt compelled to speak up as I saw people having the same reaction to it, as they did the beloved FCP 7 in the first place. Turns out it was not the immediate future. I don’t know why you and Bob decided to pick that up now, and start a thread that Bob even said would cause an issue. I wrote a response telling the entire story. If that doesn’t satisfy you and get you to drop it, then thats your damage at this point. I would like to see you go through every article written on a company and check their timeline of usage and dedication. I primarily responded because I do not like what you are Bob insinuated in the first place. Its off base. In the future if you have a question you can email me or call me like many strangers who read the article or who saw me speak do. I do not seek publicity- I do not sell products or even consumer services- I have no way to benefit by pulling the wool over anyones eyes. -
Bob,
You can post your opinion all you want. You called me, and my firm out directly, so I needed to respond. You knew you were causing trouble, you said so – and were just so thrilled to blow the lid of this big conspiracy that doesn’t exist. Instead of bringing people into the fold and just directly ask me the question -you felt a desire to ostracize someone you don’t even know. What was the point of punctuating your post with that you installed my Avids? Which I can’t even remember? In the end, I can’t be upset with you, I put myself out there and this is what I get. Keep telling yourself you should have no negative feelings. I hope the post had the desired result for you. Please continue picking me apart. Now, I have to get back to work. -
[Chris Harlan] “As you’ve said many times, Bill. And are fond of saying still.”
Gosh, you’d think that I spent a lot of my early career in advertising – where reach and frequency are critical elements in successfully spreading an idea.
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I guess Bob’s NOT getting invited to the @Radical Christmas Party this year!
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Is this why we can’t have nice things?
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Evan, just wanted to drop in and tell you that I appreciated the segment you did in front of that window that evening : )
Really man, you are a talented brother and at the time I didn’t know of anyone that had your experience (and film credits) saying anything positive about X to the extent you did that night.
I also appreciate your response on here and update on what you have been doing.
It might not have come to you the way you preferred, but the way I see it, it gave you a chance to rise to the occasion and the questions, which I think you did quite well.As did Liz BTW (that’s how I would have handled that. Put a name on it or else how do I know you didn’t just make that up) If you are going to make that type of accusation about somebody man up with your name. She even said they could contact her privately.
Sometimes we can find positives in things that we first see as totally negative.
I was curious myself as to what you were up to. Not so much that I would take the time to call or write you. Thanks to this thread I’m not anymore.
I look forward to you in a window again : )
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[Andrew Kimery] “Is this why we can’t have nice things?
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No. Apple doesn’t make nice things anymore, ‘member?!
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