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FCP X 10.1 keywords & smart collections
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[Jeremy Garchow] “So, if I have a whole lot of Events with a lot of kw collections and need to find that kw collection, I have to manually search through all the Events for that kw.”
Methinks you guys have X confused with an asset management system. It isn’t and likely won’t be. But… FWIW – I can do this in Media Composer 😉
But you are right – searches should be at the Library level. At this point, the way Events are constructed doesn’t make a lot of sense. There is no need for them. I presume it’s a vestige of the original faulty design.
– Oliver
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “who actually thinks the outstanding issues are going to be fixed to a commercial use timescale given the software pays apple dust and they aren’t even requesting upgrade money?”
Regardless of whether we believe ProApps is serious about making pro software (and I believe they are), the point of X is to be the killer app to showcase the new Mac Pro. If it helps sell more tubes, then the R&D is justified to Cupertino.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “Methinks you guys have X confused with an asset management system.”
Not really.
I just want to be able to search a Library across multiple Events and have it show me a piece of metadata that I added.
Or be able to Smart Collect across a whole Library instead of just one Event.
If that isn’t possible, then let me hide Events so that I don’t have to look at them.
These are all functions already built in to FCPX, and if they get extended to Libraries I don’t think this suddenly makes FCPX an asset management system when I can already do this at the Event level.
And why do I need multiple Events? Well, there’s good media management capabilities with Events. So, I would like this media management capability to be extended to collections as well.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Well, there’s good media management capabilities with Events.”
Such as? I don’t follow. Why can’t that be at the Library level?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “Such as? I don’t follow. Why can’t that be at the Library level?”
Well, if you follow the Finder trail, you can send Events and their contents to a new Library (just like you can a Project).
You can move, copy, consolidate.
All of this happens within a folder that is named after the Event.
Currently, this can’t happen with a collection or smart collection, it has to be a whole Event.
I wish it was at the Library level, but even in the Finder, there’s no media in Library level, it’s all in the Event folder with its own Event database.
Here’s the Finder structure for the Tony West keywords I sent.
The Event structure in the Finder is mirrored (more or less) in the Library.
Jeremy
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I don’t do this very much. But isn’t it the same as pre 10.1? To search multiple events you’d have to highlight multiple events? Certainly it could be improved, but I’m not sure we lost any function.
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[Bret Williams] “I don’t do this very much. But isn’t it the same as pre 10.1? To search multiple events you’d have to highlight multiple events? Certainly it could be improved, but I’m not sure we lost any function.”
It’s not that we lost anything, it’s just that we didn’t gain much.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It’s not that we lost anything, it’s just that we didn’t gain much.”
The fear I have is that this is still a midway transition. Once we all get comfortable with Libraries that contain Events and design workflows around that, Apple is just as likely to change it again. They might eliminate Events altogether – other than as simple organizing folders.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “They might eliminate Events altogether – other than as simple organizing folders.”
I hope so, anything to make the Library the top level of media management.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I hope so, anything to make the Library the top level of media management.”
Aah… FCP 8 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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