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  • FCP X 10.1 keywords & smart collections

    Posted by Michael Sanders on January 6, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Why can’t you have a smart or keyword collection in the root folder that would allow you to find media across a whole library – i.e. search every event. Now that would be super powerful and rock the world.

    Imaging being doing reality and being able to look at every episode for say person x, or as a news producer being able to search for every clip of whatever/whoever.

    Michael Sanders
    London Based DP/Editor

    Hans Douma replied 11 years, 5 months ago 14 Members · 49 Replies
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  • Nick Ring

    January 6, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    This is one of my issues with the move to libraries as well. There’s a lot I like about it and I don’t mind having library>event>projects so much, but to not have keywords at the highest organizing block (as we did with events in FCPX<10.1) is frustrating indeed. There may be a structural/database reason why it may be complicated, but that’s not anything I’d know about one way or another.

  • Oliver Peters

    January 6, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    [Michael Sanders] “Why can’t you have a smart or keyword collection in the root folder that would allow you to find media across a whole library – i.e. search every event.”

    FWIW – the Search field at the top of the Browser does that. Type a clip name and it will search a full library and reveal the results.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Peter Gruden

    January 6, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    I’d prefer to have all the applied keywords listed somewhere, perhaps in Show clips menu, and when you select a keyword, all clips across all events with the same keyword applied would appear on the list.

  • Trevor Asquerthian

    January 6, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    I would also like to be able to sift by modified date in smart collections

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 6, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    You can search the whole Library by simply selecting the Library, but you cannot store metadata across Events as it is Event specific, and you cannot search for a keyword name.

    This is one of the reasons why I don’t think Events are necessary anymore.

    Here’s the discussion: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/63912

    Jeremy

  • Bret Williams

    January 6, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    So the word you’re looking for is “sort” by keyword. Not search. At least that’s the way I look at it. When I hear search keyword, I think of search for something within a particular keyword collection(s) and you can do that as Oliver pointed out.

    But what you’re asking for didn’t exist in pre-10.1 either, right?

  • Peter Gruden

    January 6, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    I don’t mind events if they would be transparent for metadata. Right now they are more like physical folders and unnecessary limitation to the metadata concept, as is the search function.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 6, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    [Peter Gruden] “I don’t mind events if they would be transparent for metadata. Right now they are more like physical folders and unnecessary limitation to the metadata concept, as is the search function.”

    Yes, they would be fine if they worked with each other instead of against the Library.

    Besides some sort of future sharing capabilities, I don’t think there’s a reason for Events, or if sharing actually happens, then they should be extended so that all the metadata functions can be used across Events, or, the Library gets to be the top most container level and not the Event.

    Jeremy

  • Michael Garber

    January 6, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    I’m working on a job with a Library that contains 18 Events. I’m reverting to creating selects sequences.

    It would also be nice to be able to search for an event name if you have a long list of events.

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company
    Blog: GARBERSHOP
    My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X

  • Oliver Peters

    January 6, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Libraries are FCP7 projects. Events are now Avid Bins. Only a bit less versatile.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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