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  • Michael Garber

    January 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    I’m taking back on my last post. Still better to make favorites and filter by favorite in the browser vs. selex timelines. Reason #1: used media ranges. Quite helpful at the moment.

    So my wish is that there would be a way to save a smart collection to the root of the library. Also, would be great if you could search for keywords by text entry vs having to scroll through the list in the search filter box.

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company
    Blog: GARBERSHOP
    My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Please send feedback to Apple: https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

    Jeremy

  • Bret Williams

    January 7, 2014 at 12:26 am

    You mean more versatile (sharing aside) right? Avid bins don’t have key wording, smart collections, etc.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 7, 2014 at 12:38 am

    do you think apple are consciously looking to create shareable avid bin objects going forward, or is this just them brute forcing a library container object around events and projects? with resulting complications for keyword collections?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Oliver Peters

    January 7, 2014 at 12:49 am

    [Bret Williams] “You mean more versatile (sharing aside) right? “

    No, in the context of the comments, I do mean LESS. The question was whether you could do smart functions across Events. In Avid, you can use an advanced Find tool that will search across all bins (opened or closed) and populate the results in a window. And bins have custom sift functions that let you show/hide clips based on user criteria. There are also multi-level sorts and far more user-created custom columns.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    January 7, 2014 at 1:49 am

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “do you think apple are consciously looking to create shareable avid bin objects going forward, or is this just them brute forcing a library container object around events and projects?”

    The latter. I don’t believe Apple thinks there’s a big enough niche for Avid-style project sharing. However, I wouldn’t be surprised to see FCP X become iCloud-aware in some way down the road. There is interest in easy collaboration via XML, but concurrent workflows? I doubt it.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 7, 2014 at 2:14 am

    if there is no larger goal, given it is the single notable feature resulting from a year of development, this feels like crazy inside baseball.

    being realistic – who as an observer is supposed to care at this point?

    who actually thinks the outstanding issues are going to be fixed to a commercial use timescale given the software pays apple dust and they aren’t even requesting upgrade money? Is everyone out of their minds? Apple are not a commercial software vendor. Why would any sane editing professional pitch their tent by the side of a capricious mount olympus?

    granted aside that the trainers, hucksters, x workflow consultants and x t-shirt sellers will be the last ones to leave.

    tiny, tiny rant there.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Tony West

    January 7, 2014 at 2:30 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] ” Events as it is Event specific, and you cannot search for a keyword name.”

    I’m confused, are you sure about this J?

    I have been searching by keywords by selecting the Library just fine.

    I have all my subjects in my doc as individual events (I talked about why in the past) but I just go up to the Library in I need to and search that way.

    Mostly I go right to the event I I know it’s in and keyword from there.

  • Oliver Peters

    January 7, 2014 at 2:38 am

    [tony west] “I have been searching by keywords by selecting the Library just fine.”

    I’m not sure I even understand the question. Why is anyone searching for keywords? They are right there in front of you as keyword collections, with a clearly visible name. Why do you have to do any searching?

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 7, 2014 at 2:46 am

    [tony west] “I’m confused, are you sure about this J?”

    Pretty sure.

    You see here I have a Library with a clip in each Event.

    I have one kw collection called Tony, and one called West:

    When I do a search for Tony, nothing comes up:

    And nothing comes up for West:

    So, if I have a whole lot of Events with a lot of kw collections and need to find that kw collection, I have to manually search through all the Events for that kw.

    Not only that, if I need both of these clips in each Event, then I have to keyword both of them separately in each Event, make sure that both clips are copied to each Event (a pain if the media isn’t external), and then track and manually sync both sets of metadata.

    I find this to be less flexible than when the were no Libraries and the Event was the top level of the sort, search, and tagging stack.

    I’m not saying I don’t like Libraries, I just don’t like how Events work inside of Libraries.

    Jeremy

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