FCP vs. Sony Vegas….you’ve got to be kidding.

[Brody Dolyniuk]

Oh, I don’t know Tom, I get the feeling you’ve been “trolling” these boards a lot longer than me…

I believe I’ve got a right to make a comment or express an opinion on something pertinent to the topic…..this is a forum about Final Cut Pro and my comments were about FCP. I never said a harmful word about anyone’s character here, I simply mentioned my disappointment about the product.

Like it or not, the points I brought up are valid, to me and apparently at least a few others. No one is forcing you to comment on the thread I started. Don’t like it? You can move on to another thread. Although somehow I feel you’re going to need to have the last word…

I may also post something on the Apple discussion boards too, again, because I believe others may eventually benefit from my input.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Brody Dolyniuk] “What would be greater yet is if FCP, as the industry standard editor, would also handle those basic functions for us everyday users…..I’m sure we can all agree on that.”

FCP is not the “industry standard.” It’s one of three major NLE applications in use for broadcast and film. Many MANY folks would call Avid the industry standard that everyone is looking to catch up to.

It does handle basic functions for everyday users. Your problem is you want many more codecs to simply work in realtime rather than convert your material to proper editing codecs for using FCP. A few more codecs might be added in an upcoming release with the popularity of DSLRs coming on, but don’t expect everything to be included since it’s so easy to convert materials to the proper codec with available tools out there.

[Brody Dolyniuk] “For the record, I made the switch to Apple Logic and am very happy with it. I’m hopeful that one day I’ll make FCP my single choice for video editing. It’s not there for me just yet.”

That’s your decision and my advice would be for you to stay with Vegas since that meets all of your needs at this time. No reason to go to an editing platform that doesn’t meet your needs.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Charlie Key]

Brody,

Maybe you should go on an FCP course before condemning it. I wouldn’t like to pick up Vegas and just hammer away like I do in FCP because it obviously wouldn’t work the same. You need knowledge of the program and knowledge of the relevant workflow to get the maximum out of said program.
The title of your thread is hostile and misinformed ‘FCP vs Sony Vegas.. you’ve got to be kidding.’ There is no ‘vs’, thats why all these platforms and programs co-exsist, different strokes for different folks. To do a general comparison based on your particular needs is childish and as adults we really dont need this conversation. If Vegas works for you, stick to it.

Good luck with your projects.

[Tom Wolsky]

Very clever. I guess you do understand the use of the word “troll” in this context.

All the best,

Tom

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[John Chay]

I”m not sure why all the FCP users take this so personally. Everyone has a right to complain about a product. I’m a FCP user and I appreciate someone taking the time to point out the flaws of FCP. In fact, I’ve been looking at buying a Sony Vegas and I’m trying to make an informed decision between Vegas and FCP. The more information I can get the better decision I can make so thank you Brody for your input.

[Ryan Mcmackin]

I feel I’m able to put my 2 cents in:) I have experience with pretty much all the major editors out in the market. from FCP/Premier pro Which I was trained on both in Collage. I’ve even used a little AVID, even Pinnacle before Avid incorporated the company.I’m currently a 3D/ film and motion graphics instructor. Where I teach both FCP and Premier Pro, I also have an independent film studio Dark Water Productions. Where we have completed a full length super natural thriller and have it distributed, feel free to look up IMDB for “Ominous” for valid credit. Now that’s all said and done.

Here are my 2 cents.
I personally was comfortable using FCP and Premier pro but when I decided to tackle a full length feature project my budget was pretty low. Fortunately I used to own the domain name Transformersmovie.com and Paramount was gladly to pay me enough to fund our project. I had to purchase and new HD camera so I decided to pick up a Sony brand camera. I was about to order a licensed version of either FCP or Premier Pro next but the sales rep decided to throw a License version of SONY VEGAS 6 with the camera. I was like okay that’s cool, I mean I’ve heard of Vegas and thought I doubt I would use it because I to felt it was an inferior editor.

Anyways to get to my point. When the camera arrived I saw the Sony Vegas 6 package with it and decided Hmmmmm maybe i’ll save a few thousand bucks instead of buying a new Mac with Final Cut or a Licenses version of Premier Pro.

I decided to install it and give it a run, at the time I heard Sony Vegas 6 was capable of handling HD footage on such a weak processor, so I decided to test it out. As soon as I installed it and started importing footage in the time line. Right off the bat i was impressed with how fast you could drop in any format of video let alone audio clips, Then after looking around I started dropping in Effects it even came with a license version of Magic Bullet so I was really dieing to try that out. After dropping in multiple effects I decided to run the time line I was amazed that Sony played the time line in real time with stacked effects on HD footage on such a weak processor which was a dual core intel chip not a duo core but a duel core at the time.

So I decided to really give it an honest shot, I ended up editing our whole movie Ominous on Sony Vegas 6 and completed it in version 7 and till this day I’m on Version 9. I honestly love Sony Vegas now. The work flow is amazing.

I can see why forums all over are starting to favor Sony Vegas, Sony had done there homework and made an amazing editor and the cost of the software is pretty cheap. Just because it’s a lower price doesn’t mean it’s inferior. Sony Vegas is really starting to turn heads in the industry. Eventually you will see it priced higher because it will be more in demand.

Look at Paranormal Activity movie he filmed it on a Sony HD camera and edited the whole project on Sony Vegas.

But all this is my opinion. But to everyone trying to knock Sony Vegas you might want to honestly give it a shot. You to might be surprised just like I was.

Ryan McMackin
Dark Water Productions
https://www.facebook/darkwatermovies

[Reginald Rodgers]

I wish I knew this information 2 years ago.
This is fantastic information.
I did do my homework.
But, I never discovered this information.

[Dave Chaimson]

>>I can see why forums all over are starting to favor Sony Vegas, Sony had done there homework and made an amazing editor and the cost of the software is pretty cheap. Just because it’s a lower price doesn’t mean it’s inferior. Sony Vegas is really starting to turn heads in the industry. Eventually you will see it priced higher because it will be more in demand.

Couldn’t agree more. We’d love to hear about your successes with Vegas Pro (dave.chaimson@am.sony.com). There are many station groups, numerous studios, and countless independent filmmakers that have recognized the benefits the platform provides. Hope you saw the news this morning about VP11.

[Xavier Candiani]

Shane. You are angry because you are not free to use Vegas Pro.

[Harold Dushevits]

Your answer, demeanor and attitude are reflected in your scrunchy face pic.