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  • FCP Studio and DVCAM and imac

    Posted by Rolfe Klement on July 12, 2005 at 12:30 am

    Dear All

    I am a newbie to Mac’s but have had it with the world of PC. I need to rough edit projects that have been offlayed to DV and DVCAM. We do no effects, just generate the EDL that we take back for film grading.

    We sometimes need to create the rough sound cut as well

    And finally we might have a completed project from D1 that we might downrez to DVCAM and want to put to DVD

    I am looking at getting the IMAC g5 2.0 with 400gb harddrive and 2GB of RAM – because I am not interested in cables and mess.

    My plan is to use a Sony HVR-M10E – to bring DV and DVCAM

    Does this sound like a good plan?
    Will the hardware handle it?
    How long (time) of DVCAM can the imac store?
    Can the imac handle realtime playback of the SD DV or DVCAM (with no effects just cuts)?

    thanks

    Rolfe Klement
    http://www.creativesunshine.com

    Mitch Ives replied 21 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    July 12, 2005 at 12:41 am

    Sony HVR-M10E? Isn’t that an HDV camera? are you going to use the HDV footage, or downconvert to DV when you capture?

    If you are going to use the HDV, then the iMac is definately NOT the way to go. And, seriously, I wouldn’t use it at all. It really isn’t meant for FCP. But, if your budget is tight, then use it if you must. I works fine with plain ol’ DV footage.

    BUT…do not, repeat…do not capture to the drive that comes with the computer. You will need to purchase another drive to capture your footage onto. External firewire drive will work fine with DV. The main system drive is not recommended as it will drop frames all the time as the system accesses system resources from time to time.

    As for how much room DV footage takes: DV (DV25, miniDV, DVCAM) Data Rate: 3.13 MB/second or approx 12 GB per hour of footage.

  • Rolfe Klement

    July 12, 2005 at 12:46 am

    And I forgot… we want to view the footage on our Sony BVM monitor while working with it in FCP5. Not sure what this is called in Mac world – but we call it “framebuffer” – is this possible on an imac G5?Do I need any special accessories to do this?

    thanks

    Rolfe Klement
    http://www.creativesunshine.com

  • Shane Ross

    July 12, 2005 at 12:53 am

    Shane’s Stock Answer #8:

    A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv

    Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.

    Then go View > External video > all frames
    Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
    Audio playback should be Audio follows Video

    Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV

    If for some reason you can’t view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:

    1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.

    2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.

    3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.

    4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.

    5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices

    6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed

    If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section

    For all the stock answers, click on this link:
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  • Rolfe Klement

    July 12, 2005 at 12:53 am

    Thanks for the reply – we will use the sony deck since it is the best price point entry for both DV and DVCAM (we will not use it for HDV) – we need the DVCAM since we have timecode issues coming out of Telecine or from the rushes from developed film – the post house prefer to go to DVCAM

    Basically since our format origination is 35mm we just need the EDL – then the post house can do their work on it – and output in any format required

    What would be the best option for an external hard drive – apologies if this has been asked before

    thanks

    Rolfe Klement
    http://www.creativesunshine.com

  • Rolfe Klement

    July 12, 2005 at 12:58 am

    So it is not possible to use the mini VGA connector to drive a monitor (via adaptors) use some kind of framebuffer option in FCP5 – (3dsmax in windows world has this option)

    thanks

    Rolfe Klement
    http://www.creativesunshine.com

  • Shane Ross

    July 12, 2005 at 1:06 am

    Drives: Seagate, Hitachi, Western Digital. Those are the top three. Firewire will be fine if you are going with the iMac. If you go with a G5 tower, then get those drives as SATA internals. Far cheaper and mroe reliable.

    VGA – Sorry. All that does is mirror the desktop, or in some cases, add additional desktop workspace. It wil not act as a production monitor out. Gonna have to look thru the deck. That is better anyway…monitor what the deck is seeing, or not seeing.

  • Rolfe Klement

    July 12, 2005 at 9:36 am

    Thank you very much for the responses – how does the Lacie firewire drive hold up – since many post houses like to off lay to them?

    and they look good 🙂

    thanks

    Rolfe Klement
    http://www.creativesunshine.com

  • Shane Ross

    July 12, 2005 at 9:52 am

    People have had good luck with LaCie drives…and others have had them fail dramatically. They have a higher failure rate…at least from word of mouth thru the forums…than any of the others I mentioned combined. And they sell more drives…so…take it for what it it.

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 12, 2005 at 10:44 am

    [Rolfe Klement] “Thanks for the reply – we will use the sony deck since it is the best price point entry for both DV and DVCAM (we will not use it for HDV) – we need the DVCAM since we have timecode issues coming out of Telecine or from the rushes from developed film – the post house prefer to go to DVCAM”

    Since you don’t need the HDV function, you may want to look at the DSR-11. DVCAM and DV at $1,800 or cheaper.

    I echo the sentiments of most folks here that the G5 would be the best, but a fully loaded iMac would cut DV / DVCAM material just fine, especially since you say you’re only going to cut the project. No filters or effects. Heck, a 17″ Powerbook will even serve you well for that. You may want to add a second monitor to the mix.

    As for media storage, LaCie and G-RAID’s are the two primary external firewire drives I recommend. The FW800 drives can easily handle DV/DVCAM and some of them can handle up to 8bit uncompressed.

    To view your projects on an external monitor, simply view the output of your deck to the monitor / speakers. Note that Final Cut Pro has a playback offset built in to the audio playback. For most firewire devices, you want to leave that offset at the default 4 frames. This ensures that you hear the audio in sync with the picture on the external monitor.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Rolfe Klement

    July 12, 2005 at 12:30 pm

    I just ordered the 300gb Seagate firwire external HDD and an imac G5 2ghz with 2gb ram with FCP studio – so fingers crossed it all works

    thanks for the help

    Rolfe

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