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FCP Render Times Vs Adobe Premier Render Times
Hi, <- My casual Greeting So I have been an avid Final Cut Pro guy for the last 4 years. I love the program.... I can work very easily in it but recently I got a new job in which I have been using both FCP and Adobe Premier. Here is my issue... I have been using files that come in as MPEG 2 and have been using MPEG Streamclip to convert them over to a ProRes file for FCP. From FCP I have had to export them into 3 formats 1. Mpeg 4 (the file format our website takes) 2. FLV (Format for online video sites) 3. QuickTime (XDCAM) for our tricaster The last week I have been using FCP and my render times have been (for a 5 min clip) 1. Mpeg 1 hour+ 2. FLV 20 min+ 3. QuickTime (XDCAM) 1 hour + Yesterday I was told to use Premier as my boss uses Premier on a regualr basis and I assured him that the times would be the same as FCP is a Mac native program and that Premier was made to work on a mac but is essentially a PC program (I am eating my words now)... I redid the renders on the same file... On premier the render times were 1. Mpeg 30+ min 2. FLV 12 min 3. QuickTime (XDCAM) 40 min Why is this? Do I just have something really messed up in my settings that FCP is not rendering quickly and Premier is? I would hate to have to hop over to Premier... I enjoy using FCP way to much. The other question I have is why are FCP render times not accurate... The renders will start saying 5 min then 10 then an hour etc.... and the time will not be accurate. If it says 5 min it may go for an hour... or if it says an hour it may just complete while still telling me I have an hour to wait. Adobe Premier, right off the bat, will tell me the frame it is on and the percent and time left... almost to the T. If possible... please help me get my fcp back on the right track. Tim Timothy Gaer http://www.timothygaer.com
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[Timothy Gaer] “The last week I have been using FCP and my render times have been (for a 5 min clip)
1. Mpeg 1 hour+
2. FLV 20 min+
3. QuickTime (XDCAM) 1 hour + “Those export times are scandalously slow.
Are you exporting to these formats directly from within FCP? If so, don’t. Don’t even use the “send to Compressor” option. Just don’t.
Instead, first render your sequence in FCP. Then export either a self-contained or reference Quicktime movie from FCP (“Export Quicktime movie,” NOT “Export with Quicktime conversion”), then encode to the desired formats using Compressor.
If you’re not using Compressor, start using it. Also, search the forum on how to set up a virtual cluster to get the best performance out of Compressor.
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Thanks… That made a huge difference with the MP4 conversion but compressor does not have an option for FLV files… is there an add on that is needed to export FLV?
Timothy Gaer
http://www.timothygaer.com
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3014735/
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There are many opinions about the best way to encode FLV files. Some people say that you can simply encode an h.264 .mov and change the extension to .flv and it will play back in Flash player. I haven’t tried this myself.
Since I never encode Flash video, I’m really not familiar with all of the available options or plugins for encoding .flv files.
I do know that Telestream’s Episode Encoder does Flash:
https://www.telestream.net/episode/overview.htm
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[Alan Okey] ” Some people say that you can simply encode an h.264 .mov and change the extension to .flv and it will play back in Flash player. I haven’t tried this myself. “
This is what I do, and it does work. I’ve always been able to get cleaner h.264 encodes than .flv (I use Sorenson Squeeze) but our website was built for .flv files. So I encode h.264, change the extension, and upload.
Is Compressor multicore aware? If it’s not and Premiere is that could be why you’re seeing faster encode times through Premiere.
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[Michael Hancock] “Is Compressor multicore aware?”
Compressor is absolutely, positively multicore aware. That’s the main reason to use it versus exporting from FCP.
Search the forum for “cluster” or “virtual cluster” for all the juicy details.
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I read about compressor and making it aware of the other cores. I am sure that it is not currently aware… however my system was set up by the IT guy in our studio and he deleted it from the system preferences (“The less you have starting up the faster yours system will be” he said) and I haven’t figured out how to put it back in System Preferences short of re-installing FCP… which at this point is not an option.
Anyone have an idea how to get it back so I can try your suggestion?
Timothy Gaer
http://www.timothygaer.com
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3014735/
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Premiere Pro and Adobe Media Encoder are both multi-core aware and are able to address 64-bit memory if your system has it. You might find what Adobe is doing in the future of interest here. Check out this link if you’re so inclined:
https://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2009/11/technology_sneek_peek_adobe_me.html
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