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  • FCP or Hard Drive dropping frames on playback?

    Posted by Kyle on November 20, 2005 at 2:20 am

    Sorry but this is sort of a three part question:

    I am trying to edit a wedding I shot and upon digitizing I dropped frames quite a lot. I was finally able to get all of the footage in. I thought at first this was due to it being shot in 24p from a DVX100A so I changed the capture settings this did not help. I then realized the camera did not shoot any footage in 24p just standard 30fps. (maybe some of the problem is/was 29.97 setting vs. 30?) Anyway, now upon editing there are parts where my hard drive which is new (internal) seems to click and then pause upon certain parts of playback, always the same spots. Then it will give me a warning message that I dropped frames on playback and it gave a few options to try such as turning off unlimited RT which is not on, lowering data compression rate (not sure on this one) and closing open sequences (which there are none). Are these parts of the footage bad and not usable or is it FCP or is it a bad drive? I can try transferring some of the data to my external drive and seeing if that works. Also, I’m not sure which drive is making the clicking noise and stopping. I’m assuming it’s the internal one because that is where the footage is stored. Also, this footage seems to now be out of sync once frames were dropped although nothing has been edited, is this because it can’t read some of the frames so when it plays back it does not play them back hence not being in sync? HELP!

    Don Greening replied 20 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    November 20, 2005 at 4:36 am

    AH…you captured your footage to your internal system drive? Then yes, that is why you dropped frames. NEVER capture to your system drive…it is busy managing the OS and Applications, it gets easily distracted if you try to capture media to it.

    ALWAYS capture media to secondary internal drives, or external drives.

    If you captured with dropped frames, then the only way to solve it is to trash your media, and RECAPTURE to an external drive. DON’T DELETE YOUR CLIPS! They contain the VALUABLE timecode information, so that you don’t have to log all your footage again. Just delete the captured media, and go buy an external Firewire drive.
    Capture to that.

  • Kyle

    November 20, 2005 at 4:49 am

    Thanks,

    I forgot to mention that the internal drive I captured to is a secondary drive with nothing on it but the media, it is not the system drive.
    I did however format it with extended journaling turned on, I read that if it’s not going to be a system boot up drive then there is no reason to turn this function on, is this correct? Anyway, I guess the point of all this is is the footage itself to blame, i.e. it captured with dropped frames and it’s playing back that way? I did not capture to the external drive because it is not large enough to hold all the data, it’s an old 120GB PC hard drive I put in an enclosure, the new secondary internal drive is a nice big 350 GB.

    Thanks,

    Kyle

  • Shane Ross

    November 20, 2005 at 4:56 am

    If it dropped frames duing capture then yes, those frames are missing and it will play back all jumpy. journalling off is good for media drives.

    But why did it drop frames to begin with? You say you captured to this drive initially? And it was formatted Mac OS extended at the time?

    hmmmm…

  • Don Greening

    November 20, 2005 at 7:54 am

    Kyle,

    Just do as Shane has recommended and you should be just fine. Take your media files offline in the browser, turn journalling off for your media drive and then recapture. Important note: make sure your capture and sequence settings reflect your source media. If you shot in 30p you also need to make your capture setting DV NTSC 48Khz, just like regular interlaced video.

    If you tried to originally capture 30p to a 24p capture preset, no wonder you were dropping frames, as FCP was probably trying to remove 24p pulldown that didn’t exist.

    The link below will show you how to set up FCP for capturing the various frame rates, among other things. Take the time to read the article and you’ll be a pro when you’re finished.

    https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/24p_in_FCP_nattress.html

    – Don

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