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  • FCP multiclip problems; P2 spanned reel; log and transfer

    Posted by Patrick Mcintyre on August 31, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Here is the problem in detail, I am using FCP 7.0:

    I have 150+ clips from three simultaneous cameras from this week’s shoot. Each camera is associated with it’s own HDD (hard disk drive) and I offloaded 32G P2 Cards from the Panasonic HPX170s using 1394 HOST MODE. I downloaded multiple P2 cards each day to a HDD dedicated to each camera. I renamed each FAT32 partition on the HDD from NO NAME to something sensible: C1Day1, C2Day1, etc….

    Then I went to FCP for log and transfer. The transfer in seemed OK; there were many ‘spanned reels’.

    After import, when you look in Browser, some clips take the ‘reel name’ from the HDD partition name during import –except those that are ‘spanned reels’ and there are a lot of them. The problem with the clips that are ‘spanned reels’ is that the reel name in Browser is literally ‘spanned reel’.

    And this seems to trigger some crazy issues with multiclip organization. [Apparently FCP uses reel name and/or something else to determine multiclip angle (even after setting ‘Angle’ manually in Browser)???]

    ***So even after I manually set ‘Angle’ in Browser to only A1, A2 or A3, I end up with many, many unexplained Angles when I create a multiclip or multiclip sequence. So after a lot of effort to Time Sync all three cameras, I seem to end up with a big mish-mosh.***

    Lastly, I changed the reel name in Browser (a destructive edit) to see of that would fix the issue; it does not. I still end up with many extra unexplained angles.

    I have downloaded the demo version of pluraleyes and used it with mixed success (it seems to delete clips that it thinks are overlapped).

    The issue seems simple: If I input only 3 angles in Browser, I would expect only 3 angles when I create a multiclip or a multiclip sequence–not some arbitrarily large number based on input or other artifacts.

    Please direct me to a thread or elsewhere if this issue has been addressed. Thank you.

    This is a Reel PITA. Help?

    Patrick Mcintyre replied 13 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
  • 2 Replies
  • Chris Gegax

    July 12, 2012 at 4:15 am

    Hi, Patrick. Know this was ages ago, but do you recall if you were able to find a workaround for your multi clip/P2 issue?

  • Patrick Mcintyre

    July 12, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Panasonic/P2/FCP seem to be VERY sensitive to the order in which the cards are recorded AND transferred.
    The order of the transfer must be the same as the order they were shot, then P2/FCP sorts out the spans and links everything together as you would expect. But the cards must be entered for transfer in the order they were shot. This sort of makes sense from a file management point of view. So if you shoot 4 P2 Cards, label the cards 1, 2, 3, 4 and use successive pairs (in my case the camera has 2 slots) to offload the material: P1/P2; P2/P3; P3/P4. Please let me know if this works for you. It has worked fine for me and the time I didn’t do it this way was a HUGE mess. Best, Patrick McIntyre cow@jpmcintyre.com jpm@EllKatProductions.com

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