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  • FCP movie to QuickTime movie

    Posted by Alexander Kallas on May 3, 2008 at 5:06 am

    Hi all,
    I’m using and can only use a self-contained FCP movie in CinemaCraft (Great mpeg2 encoder) in Windows with the QuickTime label.
    In this case it is on an external drive that the Windows machine can also read via MacDrive.

    Again the crux of the matter is that Windows will not run FCP and hence will not recognize the self-contained FCP movie. (not even via it’s QT reference movie designation-that was a test to see if I could trick it into using the FCP file)
    Cinemacraft looks for a QuickTime file only and it must be self-contained.
    I have to convert the FCP movie to a self-contained file with the QuickTime label.
    To retain it in the exact same properties as the FCP movie I save it back in the QT player, now as a solid self-contained movie with the Quicktime label, which the encoder sees, and works on correctly.
    Now this involves a lot of render time and drive space (I use 8-bit un-compressed) so hence my origional question, to save time and space :-
    “So apart from saving back the self-contained FCP movie as a QuickTime file,
    how can we get that self-containd movie into a Quicktime package without quality loss?”
    Is there another quicker way?.

    Cheers
    Alexander

    Russell Lasson replied 18 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    May 3, 2008 at 5:21 am

    Hi Alexander,
    QT for Windows can not read Apple 8b Unc codec. You need to export your movie with a codec Window compatible. You can use BlackMagic, AJA or Sheer.[Alexander Kallas]

    ” have to convert the FCP movie to a self-contained file with the QuickTime label.
    To retain it in the exact same properties as the FCP movie I save it back in the QT player”

    Just open the FC-QT movie with QT player and SAVE AS (selfcontained). Make sure that the movie have the .mov extension so can be open by QT in Windows.
    Practice and learn because you have to explain me few things soon. I’m installing Windows in my MBP and soon I will be in troubles.
    I’m only installing Windows to try to run CinemaCraft and Encore.
    Which CinemaCraft version are you using?
    Do you know if there is Demo of CinemaCraft PS2?

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Russell Lasson

    May 3, 2008 at 5:24 am

    It really just sounds like a matter of installing the right codecs. When you export the self-contained movie, open it up in QuickTime and what codec does it say if you get info on the clip?

    Also, you should install either the AJA or Blackmagic drivers on the Windows side so the files will be seen in Windows QT.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Kaleidoscope Pictures
    Provo, UT

  • Alexander Kallas

    May 3, 2008 at 8:51 am

    [Rafael Amador] “Hi Alexander,
    QT for Windows can not read Apple 8b Unc codec. You need to export your movie with a codec Window compatible.”

    No, why do you say that? My Dell laptop with MacDrive can read 8-bit uncompressed Apple codec via fire-wire 400.

    [Rafael Amador] “Just open the FC-QT movie with QT player and SAVE AS (selfcontained). Make sure that the movie have the .mov extension so can be open by QT in Windows.”

    Read my post again, that’s the only way I found to do it, I’m looking for another way
    tosave time and drive-space.

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Alexander Kallas

    May 3, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Hi Russell,
    read my post above

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Rafael Amador

    May 3, 2008 at 9:31 am

    To play Apple 8b Unc in a PC is something new, and good to know it.

    [Alexander Kallas] “e I save it back in the QT player, now as a solid self-contained movie with the Quicktime label, which the encoder sees, and works on correctly.
    Now this involves a lot of render time and drive space”

    When you SAVE AS, you are not rendering nothing. You keep all he original information.

    If you want your FC files be simple QT,
    – Change “OPEN with QT” instead of FC.
    – Change the Thumbnail
    – Set the extension.
    Al this you can do in the info window.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 3, 2008 at 10:15 am

    [Alexander Kallas] “Again the crux of the matter is that Windows will not run FCP and hence will not recognize the self-contained FCP movie.”

    Nope!!! Sorry, that is not the crux of the matter and the issue has nothing whatsoever to do with the FCP icon you see on your self contained QT.

    Just add the extension .mov to the self contained file. Period, end of story… Makes no difference whether you add it in the Mac Finder or the Windows Browser. Bingo, you’ll find that the file is suddenly recognized by all Windows apps.

    Gee, that was simple wasn’t it???

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Alexander Kallas

    May 3, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Just add the extension .mov to the self contained file. Period, end of story… Makes no difference whether you add it in the Mac Finder or the Windows Browser. Bingo, you’ll find that the file is suddenly recognized by all Windows apps.

    Gee, that was simple wasn’t it???”

    Thanks David,
    Sure, real simple (when you know how)
    That’s why we love the forums!

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Russell Lasson

    May 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    I did. Answer my questions above so we better understand your post above:)

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Kaleidoscope Pictures
    Provo, UT

  • Bret Williams

    May 3, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    In David’s defense, it is kind of computer lit 101. Windows has to have an extension. FCP movies (you must have an old version of FCP to call them that, they’re now called Quicktime movies in the dialog) are just quicktime movies. All of FCP is quicktime through and through.

    In fact the extension may have just been hidden as all the FCP media is. Just highlight a file, do a get info (cmd+I) and uncheck the hide extension check box.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 3, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Bret,

    Gosh, do I need defense???

    I think the problem that confuses many people is the FCP icon that gets attached to some QT exports and not others. It can lead people to believe that exported files are somehow not standard QT movies.

    In addition, its very common when moving Mac files over to Windows or when receiving them from Mac users, that they actually do not have a .xxx extension, and so it needs to be added manually.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

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