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FCP destoyed my original footage.
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When he said “breaking it up” does he mean subclipping or exporting shorter chunk? If he exported short chunks then it could’ve exported with the filter and that’s why he’s seeing the letterbox.
He has 10 years of NLE experience and he can’t even describe his process in a more detailed report than that? Can’t even use the terms subclip or export to help us help him? And asks about legal action? Anyways, didn’t he telecine to a tape? Just recapture from your tape!
This guys is totally a troll. He’s either a kid or a disgruntled out of work Avid fanboy. No real person is that absurd.
Chi-Ho Lee
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trol or not, I don’t know.
The guy has a problem and we could help him (and our selfs) more or better by asking questions than by being judgemental.On the other end, this computer of him must be pretty powerful when it’s able to change a whole reel into something else without a sweat
Rene Hazekamp
portfolio https://www.renehazekamp.com
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Obviously he’s a troll and trying to fan some flames. There is no logic to his original question and he backed it up with very little detail in response.
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[rene hazekamp] “The guy has a problem and we could help him (and our selfs) more or better by asking questions than by being judgemental. “
Have you read the whole thread? People have been more than polite, cordial,. and helpful with him at the beginning. It was him who started to respond with an attitude and talk crap about people who were trying to help him.
It’s hard to help people who aren’t grateful or respectful for your advice. Maybe you should try a crack at it?
Chi-Ho Lee
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[Chi-Ho Lee] “It’s hard to help people who aren’t grateful or respectful for your advice.”
Amen to that. I think most of us tried to help, but when you start insulting the software, the people and the forum, not much we can do at that point.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[walter biscardi] “Ed, it’s obvious you don’t want any further help from us. We’ve fully explained that FCP, and in fact all NLE’s, do not alter the original media files for no apparent reason. The operator (either you or someone else along the way) has done something to cause the files to change OR you’re looking at the wrong files. “
Ed has a number of issues. If he was as experienced as he claims, it would have already donned on him that the simple solution is to take one of the other reels that he has confirmed are not letter-boxed, copy it and walk it through FCP. When the problem doesn’t occur, then he will know that the one reel he had trouble with was in fact different in some way. If the problem does occur, then he can document in detail exactly what he did… post some footage for Apple and the rest of us to test. Of course that would actually accomplish something…
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This was a rarely delightful thread.
Nice work everyone, excellent efforts, patience, good attempts to locate a root cause, several helpful suggestions.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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[ed sully] “But hey, were all human here, if i had paid for an NLE system for the same price that i could have built five windows equivalents, i would be pretty defensive too. But i’ve learned something today thanks to all you fine gentleman, its not apple your defending, its bad decision making.”
Ed,
I just ran into this post when you tried to get your anti-Apple crap going in the After Effects forum and so I began digging into some of your past posts and found this.
I am going to give it to you straight: You damaged your own files when you (to quote you) “spent a few days breaking it up and decided to apply 16:9 letter box effect to get a better idea of what i had to work with.” You damaged the files by overwriting them. FCP does not do this — EVER.
And don’t call me an Apple fanboy or your words will be your last. You see, I use both PCs and Macs — oh, and own a dozen Linux boxes to boot. I could care less whose system I am on, it’s all just silicon, plastic and a bit of metal to me. I have NEVER found a perfect OS but I have also NEVER found a nonlinear system that overwrites the source files — that takes a human to do that. And as you did say “hey, we’re all human here,” I would recommend that as the origin of your problem. As the old adage goes: It’s a poor workman that blames his tools.
But I notice how quick you are to throw away the feedback and experience of those whose resumes (both individually and collectively) far outweigh your own.
What you are wanting people to tell you is that you didn’t f*** up, but you did. It was your fault and in all the years I have spent building forums (which just passed 13 years in June of 2008), I have yet to find ANY nonlinear editing system that EVER overwrote its source files. You did that when you “spent a few days breaking it up and decided to apply 16:9 letter box effect to get a better idea of what i had to work with.” You slowly, meticulously and industriously destroyed your own source footage — one “break up” at a time. (Don’t ask me how, as I wasn’t there, and I do not know your workflow — but I will guarantee you did it as NO nonlinear system works that way or ever overwrites the source files.)
If you wish to find the source of your problem, run down to WalMart and go to the housewares department and look for a mirror. Hold it up and look into it. There’s the problem.
Oh, and try the anti-Apple troll garbage in this site EVER again and you will be gone. I tire of fanboys very quickly — no matter whose KoolAid they are drinking.
Lastly, I know many of the people that replied in this thread and tried to help you. Their combined broadcast output accounts for many network series, documentaries and other fare. To treat them as idiot fanboys shows that your agenda is NOT to find the truth and solve the problem, but is rather to be a problem yourself. We do NOT tolderate that around here, Ed.
Keep that in mind the next time you decide to pull something like this and insult those who are trying to help you. Oh, and keep in mind that I do have 13 years of building communities and when I want to “disappear someone,” I have built the tools that allow me to lock you out of ever seeing the COW, let alone post to it.
Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
co-founder, creativecow.netRemember: Burt Bacharach lied. What the world really needs now is an undo button.
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Hello All, I know this is a rather late-breaking addendum to this topic, but this is also my first posting to this site, after years of benefitting from the collective trouble-shooting to which (most) everyone here contributes. I’m indebted to these forums. And I also want to relate a strange incident that occurred yesterday, in which FCP (accidently) over-wrote it’s own source footage.
I was working on someone else’s rig at work, and needed to slap a new music bed onto an existing graphics package. My methodology here is not the best, but I was under deadline, and trying to move too fast. I grabbed the graphics clip from a drive and dropped it onto the desktop. I created a sequence in the project already open, added the graphics to the browser, dropped it into the sequence, dropped in the music, (added slugs, tweaked levels, etc), and outputted by sending to compressor.
Here is the fatal mistake I made– in compressor I chose desktop as my destination, and renamed the file. I accidentally renamed the output the same name as the source file, which was also on the desktop. When compressor finished, the source file on the desktop had been replaced with the output, and in that file, while the music was intact, the image was that beautiful red “media offline.”
While it would make sense for Compressor (or any program, for that matter) to see a file of the same name in the destination and prompt the user to overwrite/rename, Compressor did not ask and thus the source file was overwritten. I guess this is one of those FCP black-holes in which the program works in mysterious ways– but it is possible for FCP to overwrite– destroy– its own source footage.
I’m not mad, because the onus for media management falls to the user, and I will never operate off the desktop again, even in a rush– I will pay much more attention, and do it write the first time (ie, creating folders and putting said folders in the proper place), because it took me several minutes to figure out what had actually happened, and then I had to start again. I should say that I’m not a professional editor, rather a departmental assistant occasionally asked to do tasks like this.
I write about this here in case it happens to someone else, but also to acknowledge that no machine or program is perfect, and that as professionals, no matter our job titles, we must be vigilant, and prepare for these unforeseen circumstances with rigorous back-ups and media management.
Failing that, lawyer up!
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